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		<title>By: Arbonne Product Reviews</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pH correct. Big deal. So is every other skin care product. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What About OneGroup Products? &#124; The Beauty Brains</title>
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		<description>[...] or &#8220;natural&#8221; we cringe because those terms are so abused. We cringe when we see Arbonne too, but that&#8217;s only because of the abuse we&#8217;ve taken about the topic of Arbonne. While [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Arbonne International - Scottsdale, AZ, 85252 - Citysearch : Network Marketing Info Blog</title>
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		<title>By: thebeautybrains</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>If you&#8217;d like to see what other people are saying about Arbonne see the <a href="http://www.thebeautybrains.com/vanilla/comments.php?DiscussionID=27" rel="nofollow">Arbonne Forum link</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: thebeautybrains</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Arbonne puts the phrase &quot;patent pending&quot; then that means they&#039;ve applied for a patent.  It doesn&#039;t mean they have a trade secret.

True, once a patent is filed (or even applied for) anyone can look at the specific formula.  If you want to know Olay&#039;s skin products you can look at their patents.  

If they applied for a trade secret they can&#039;t claim that there is a patent pending because there isn&#039;t a patent pending.  

Let me suggest the most obvious reason for claiming &quot;patent pending&quot;.  A company would do this when they want a claim that seems unique even if they don&#039;t have products that are.  This is because you don&#039;t have to actually have a unique product to be able to claim &quot;patent pending&quot;.  As long as you file the paperwork or intend to file the paper work, you can claim &quot;patent pending&quot;.  Patent pending is a meaningless claim.

Even if they had a patent, I would still stand by my statement that the products are nothing special.  They use the same ingredients as everyone else.  You can see this by their ingredient statements.  The tiny differences you can have to get a patent make most cosmetic patents meaningless.  We know enough about cosmetic formulas to know when products are noticeably different or not.

They do use the same ingredients as everyone else in the industry.  We all follow the CTFA and the rules that govern the industry.  Arbonne is no different.

It&#039;s not up to us to prove that Arbonne products are noticeably different.  You of course are savvy enough to know proving that &quot;every single product&quot; is not different is impossible.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s up to Arbonne or their supporters to provide evidence that they are noticeably different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Arbonne puts the phrase &#8220;patent pending&#8221; then that means they&#8217;ve applied for a patent.  It doesn&#8217;t mean they have a trade secret.</p>
<p>True, once a patent is filed (or even applied for) anyone can look at the specific formula.  If you want to know Olay&#8217;s skin products you can look at their patents.  </p>
<p>If they applied for a trade secret they can&#8217;t claim that there is a patent pending because there isn&#8217;t a patent pending.  </p>
<p>Let me suggest the most obvious reason for claiming &#8220;patent pending&#8221;.  A company would do this when they want a claim that seems unique even if they don&#8217;t have products that are.  This is because you don&#8217;t have to actually have a unique product to be able to claim &#8220;patent pending&#8221;.  As long as you file the paperwork or intend to file the paper work, you can claim &#8220;patent pending&#8221;.  Patent pending is a meaningless claim.</p>
<p>Even if they had a patent, I would still stand by my statement that the products are nothing special.  They use the same ingredients as everyone else.  You can see this by their ingredient statements.  The tiny differences you can have to get a patent make most cosmetic patents meaningless.  We know enough about cosmetic formulas to know when products are noticeably different or not.</p>
<p>They do use the same ingredients as everyone else in the industry.  We all follow the CTFA and the rules that govern the industry.  Arbonne is no different.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not up to us to prove that Arbonne products are noticeably different.  You of course are savvy enough to know proving that &#8220;every single product&#8221; is not different is impossible.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s up to Arbonne or their supporters to provide evidence that they are noticeably different.</p>
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