Comments on: What is Cyclopentasiloxane? http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/09/27/what-is-cyclopentasiloxane/ Cosmetic chemists answer your beauty product questions! We are a group of cosmetic scientists who understand what the chemicals used in cosmetics really do, how products are tested, and what all the advertising means. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:25:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: OhNoNotSo http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/09/27/what-is-cyclopentasiloxane/comment-page-2/#comment-50925 OhNoNotSo Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:19:06 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/09/27/what-is-cyclopentasiloxane/#comment-50925 Interesting comments here. The readers are ignorant, which doesn't surprise me much, and the moderators are taking personal positions, which does surprise me. I have a chemistry degree, so will put in my two cents. First, natural products ARE chemicals, even if you can eat/drink them. Second, just because a "natural" product is derived from a plant doesn't mean it's safe. Cocaine is derived from plants. You can eat it, drink it, huff it up your nose, but that doesn't make it safe. By the same token, a chemical that has been synthesized in a lab is not necessarily more dangerous than one derived from plants. Water can be synthesized in a lab, and it will be completely pure. They're all chemicals, and will exhibit properties based on their chemical composition. Is rose hip oil safe? We're in no position to answer that question. Is cyclopentasiloxane safe? The research that has been done to date hasn't shown it to be hazardous to health. In the end, no matter what you choose to use on your skin, it will be a chemical, so it's your choice whether you want to use something that has been studied and tested, or if you wish to use an unstudied product. Please do not take a position based on the fact that a product is "natural" or "organic", as that is meaningless marketing jargon. Finally, most of the silicon (Si) used to make products is derived from sand, because sand is a readily available natural resource. This has nothing to do with the safety of the compounds created using the silicon. Interesting comments here. The readers are ignorant, which doesn’t surprise me much, and the moderators are taking personal positions, which does surprise me. I have a chemistry degree, so will put in my two cents. First, natural products ARE chemicals, even if you can eat/drink them. Second, just because a “natural” product is derived from a plant doesn’t mean it’s safe. Cocaine is derived from plants. You can eat it, drink it, huff it up your nose, but that doesn’t make it safe. By the same token, a chemical that has been synthesized in a lab is not necessarily more dangerous than one derived from plants. Water can be synthesized in a lab, and it will be completely pure. They’re all chemicals, and will exhibit properties based on their chemical composition. Is rose hip oil safe? We’re in no position to answer that question. Is cyclopentasiloxane safe? The research that has been done to date hasn’t shown it to be hazardous to health. In the end, no matter what you choose to use on your skin, it will be a chemical, so it’s your choice whether you want to use something that has been studied and tested, or if you wish to use an unstudied product. Please do not take a position based on the fact that a product is “natural” or “organic”, as that is meaningless marketing jargon. Finally, most of the silicon (Si) used to make products is derived from sand, because sand is a readily available natural resource. This has nothing to do with the safety of the compounds created using the silicon.

]]> By: Lara http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/09/27/what-is-cyclopentasiloxane/comment-page-2/#comment-49032 Lara Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:59:11 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/09/27/what-is-cyclopentasiloxane/#comment-49032 I got to this post because I just bought a retinol product from my dermatologist (who makes their own), which lists cyclopentasiloxane as the first ingredient, apparently like Olay Regenerist. It has some other silicones and some caffeine, green tea polyphenols, etc. in it as well. After reading over people's bickering and crap in the comments I am pretty sure I am just going to return it and get a more stripped down retinol product not fluffed with a bunch of silicones and other unnecessary junk! I will at least know what is an effect of the retinol vs. fluff. I got to this post because I just bought a retinol product from my dermatologist (who makes their own), which lists cyclopentasiloxane as the first ingredient, apparently like Olay Regenerist. It has some other silicones and some caffeine, green tea polyphenols, etc. in it as well. After reading over people’s bickering and crap in the comments I am pretty sure I am just going to return it and get a more stripped down retinol product not fluffed with a bunch of silicones and other unnecessary junk! I will at least know what is an effect of the retinol vs. fluff.

]]> By: Jenny http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/09/27/what-is-cyclopentasiloxane/comment-page-2/#comment-48703 Jenny Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:11:02 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/09/27/what-is-cyclopentasiloxane/#comment-48703 Yay, I agree Beautybrains rule, they don't need to prove anything because they are great!! Yay, I agree Beautybrains rule, they don’t need to prove anything because they are great!!

]]> By: Bridgette http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/09/27/what-is-cyclopentasiloxane/comment-page-2/#comment-46982 Bridgette Fri, 08 Jan 2010 04:29:56 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/09/27/what-is-cyclopentasiloxane/#comment-46982 Beautybrains, I'm on your side on this one. Science rules! Beautybrains,
I’m on your side on this one.
Science rules!

]]> By: Elanor http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/09/27/what-is-cyclopentasiloxane/comment-page-2/#comment-46948 Elanor Thu, 07 Jan 2010 04:31:38 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/09/27/what-is-cyclopentasiloxane/#comment-46948 Until someone gives in and puts some peer reviewed evidence one way or the other you'll never know. Both camps seem very opposed to doing this. We can make reasnoble assumptions one way or the other but until you get some evidence you choose; do you go for dangerous until proven safe, or safe until proven dangerous. Maybe someone will put some evidence up soon, hint, hint. Personally I use quite a bit of natural skin-care but I also use active ingredients such as Retin-A, Acids and others. Do I use CPS, yes. Why, because it's one of the best bases for stabalsing ingredients such as Vit-C (i believe, any evidence to the contrary is greatly appricated.) Would I like to find evidence one way or the other, hell yeah. Until someone gives in and puts some peer reviewed evidence one way or the other you’ll never know. Both camps seem very opposed to doing this. We can make reasnoble assumptions one way or the other but until you get some evidence you choose; do you go for dangerous until proven safe, or safe until proven dangerous. Maybe someone will put some evidence up soon, hint, hint.

Personally I use quite a bit of natural skin-care but I also use active ingredients such as Retin-A, Acids and others. Do I use CPS, yes. Why, because it’s one of the best bases for stabalsing ingredients such as Vit-C (i believe, any evidence to the contrary is greatly appricated.) Would I like to find evidence one way or the other, hell yeah.

]]>