Comments on: Is Aveda Really More Natural? http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/06/13/is-aveda-really-more-natural/ Cosmetic chemists answer your beauty product questions! We are a group of cosmetic scientists who understand what the chemicals used in cosmetics really do, how products are tested, and what all the advertising means. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:20:37 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mel http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/06/13/is-aveda-really-more-natural/comment-page-2/#comment-44198 Mel Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:14:35 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2518#comment-44198 I have worked in an Aveda salon for seven years. Aveda doesn't say that their products are organic or all natural. They say that they are plant derived and environmentally friendly. They do use some chemicals, but they are tested to make sure that they are safe enough to eat, and that they won't cause any environmental damage when they are dissposed of. They have discontinued many products because of some ingredients being suspected as dangerous. For example, parabens are in alot of products. You can actually find them in alot of plants. But new research is causing a lot of suspicion about their safety. So Aveda is reformulating alot of their products. The ones that can't be reformulated are being discontinued. They are still very concious of their vision in that respect. They also do alot of good globally. Do some research about the countries and tribes they have helped. Pretty good stuff. The problem with the Lauder b influence is that now they push retail more than service and lifestyle. Corporate has gotten greedy. But the products are still fantastic and well formulated. The residue left from the air control is harmless. Lots of natural products leave a residue. But it's non toxic, I assure you. I have worked in an Aveda salon for seven years.
Aveda doesn’t say that their products are
organic or all natural. They say that they are plant derived and environmentally friendly. They do use some chemicals, but they are tested to make sure that they are safe enough to eat, and that they won’t cause any environmental damage when they are dissposed of. They have discontinued many products because of some ingredients being suspected as dangerous. For example, parabens are in alot of products. You can actually find them in alot of plants. But new research is causing a lot of suspicion about their safety. So Aveda is reformulating alot of their products. The ones that can’t be reformulated are being discontinued. They are still very concious of their vision in that respect. They also do alot of good globally. Do some research about the countries and tribes they have helped. Pretty good stuff. The problem with the Lauder b
influence is that now they push retail
more than service and lifestyle. Corporate has gotten greedy. But the products are still fantastic
and well formulated. The residue left from the air control is harmless. Lots of natural products leave a residue. But it’s non toxic, I assure you.

]]> By: Mitch http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/06/13/is-aveda-really-more-natural/comment-page-1/#comment-43867 Mitch Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:16:56 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2518#comment-43867 I work in an Aveda Concept Salon. My peers on this board are quoting the Aveda line word for word. No offense intended guys. but if you really believe that I've got a bridge to sell you. Several of our staff, myself included, have serious allergic reactions to aveda product. Air control hair spray leaves a lingering cloud that totally envelopes the chair, client and stylist. At days end there will be a film of white dust on every surface surrounding the station. I'd love to see a particulate report on this. Even Horst, Aveda's founder, has published misgivings regarding what Estee Lauder has done to Aveda's products, mission, and cachet since he sold the name in the '90's. Horst had vision. Lauder's suits and ties have a bottom line. I wish I could tell my clients this but I can't afford to. Aveda is no better than than their competitors. Funny thing is that it is the only hair company that I know of that is mocked by professionals for being a cult. Not true of course but god help a salon's Concept status if corporate senses any dissent such as this letter. I work in an Aveda Concept Salon.
My peers on this board are quoting the Aveda line word for word. No offense intended guys. but if you really believe that I’ve got a bridge to sell you. Several of our staff, myself included, have serious allergic reactions to aveda product. Air control hair spray leaves a lingering cloud that totally envelopes the chair, client and stylist. At days end there will be a film of white dust on every surface surrounding the station. I’d love to see a particulate report on this.
Even Horst, Aveda’s founder, has published misgivings regarding what Estee Lauder has done to Aveda’s products, mission, and cachet since he sold the name in the ’90’s.
Horst had vision. Lauder’s suits and ties have a bottom line.
I wish I could tell my clients this but I can’t afford to.
Aveda is no better than than their competitors. Funny thing is that it is the only hair company that I know of that is mocked by professionals for being a cult. Not true of course but god help a salon’s Concept status if corporate senses any dissent such as this letter.

]]> By: Shalom Organics http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/06/13/is-aveda-really-more-natural/comment-page-1/#comment-43419 Shalom Organics Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:22:10 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2518#comment-43419 I went to an Aveda Institute to become an Aesthetician. I just released my first line of all natural skincare products called Shalom Organics (website almost done!). The fact is if you want all natural products you need to make them yourself, and if you used any kind of fresh herbal infusion, fruit juice, or anything else perishable then it needs to be kept in the fridge and still will only last a week at best (unless you used all oils). I am hearing alot of defensiveness in this thread about Aveda, when the fact is no 'affordable' massively produced product line are totally natural. I love Aveda and their culture, but I do not think they are all natural, just as close as it gets for a major company. I make seasonal products so I can use the most fresh ingredients with as little preservatives as possible. Alot of my products are totally preservative free like my body nectar and nourishing anti-oxidant oils, lip glaze, and hydrosol balancers. But to make a cleanser that you will recognize (aka foam and remove make up) there needs to be surfactants that make that happen and although naturally occurring are the same in molecular composition to a synthetic. So kudos for supporting the natural industry but there are somethings that are just controversial and this is definitely one of them. Aveda does alot for the global community and environment that serves as a fantastic example that all others should follow. However, they were bought out by Estee Lauder who does not have the same standards that Horst does. They definitely are not ALL natural but they are damn close. I agree with Beautybrains and their breakdowns. There are certain ingredients that make products do what YOU the consumer are used to them doing, including listing all the natural ingredients first since our add society usually doesn't even get through the first half without giving up and buying on impulse. If you want to be natural DIY or find who in your local community is doing it for you. Jeanne Rose www.jeannerose.net or buy any of her books on Amazon especially The Herbal Body book for this particular topic. thanks, Monica I went to an Aveda Institute to become an Aesthetician. I just released my first line of all natural skincare products called Shalom Organics (website almost done!). The fact is if you want all natural products you need to make them yourself, and if you used any kind of fresh herbal infusion, fruit juice, or anything else perishable then it needs to be kept in the fridge and still will only last a week at best (unless you used all oils). I am hearing alot of defensiveness in this thread about Aveda, when the fact is no ‘affordable’ massively produced product line are totally natural. I love Aveda and their culture, but I do not think they are all natural, just as close as it gets for a major company.

I make seasonal products so I can use the most fresh ingredients with as little preservatives as possible. Alot of my products are totally preservative free like my body nectar and nourishing anti-oxidant oils, lip glaze, and hydrosol balancers. But to make a cleanser that you will recognize (aka foam and remove make up) there needs to be surfactants that make that happen and although naturally occurring are the same in molecular composition to a synthetic. So kudos for supporting the natural industry but there are somethings that are just controversial and this is definitely one of them.

Aveda does alot for the global community and environment that serves as a fantastic example that all others should follow. However, they were bought out by Estee Lauder who does not have the same standards that Horst does. They definitely are not ALL natural but they are damn close. I agree with Beautybrains and their breakdowns. There are certain ingredients that make products do what YOU the consumer are used to them doing, including listing all the natural ingredients first since our add society usually doesn’t even get through the first half without giving up and buying on impulse.

If you want to be natural DIY or find who in your local community is doing it for you. Jeanne Rose http://www.jeannerose.net or buy any of her books on Amazon especially The Herbal Body book for this particular topic.

thanks,

Monica

]]> By: Can You Spot A Natural Product By Reading The Ingredients? | Beauty Aware http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/06/13/is-aveda-really-more-natural/comment-page-1/#comment-42344 Can You Spot A Natural Product By Reading The Ingredients? | Beauty Aware Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:50:14 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2518#comment-42344 [...] paraphrased Kelly’s comment from our post on Is Aveda Really More Natural because I think it makes a good point about how to read an ingredient statement. Or rather, how NOT [...] [...] paraphrased Kelly’s comment from our post on Is Aveda Really More Natural because I think it makes a good point about how to read an ingredient statement. Or rather, how NOT [...]

]]> By: Can You Spot A Natural Product By Reading The Ingredients? | Beauty Secrets Blog http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/06/13/is-aveda-really-more-natural/comment-page-1/#comment-42299 Can You Spot A Natural Product By Reading The Ingredients? | Beauty Secrets Blog Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:03:28 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2518#comment-42299 [...] paraphrased Kelly’s comment from our post on Is Aveda Really More Natural because I think it makes a good point about how to read an ingredient statement. Or rather, how NOT [...] [...] paraphrased Kelly’s comment from our post on Is Aveda Really More Natural because I think it makes a good point about how to read an ingredient statement. Or rather, how NOT [...]

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