Comments on: Natural Bias on the Beauty Brains? http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/06/18/natural-bias-on-the-beauty-brains/ Cosmetic chemists answer your beauty product questions! We are a group of cosmetic scientists who understand what the chemicals used in cosmetics really do, how products are tested, and what all the advertising means. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:42:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Sarah http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/06/18/natural-bias-on-the-beauty-brains/comment-page-1/#comment-68180 Sarah Sun, 03 Apr 2011 03:23:16 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2523#comment-68180 Ummmmmmmm they are biased--they're biased in favor of using the scientific method. Look into that and then come back and talk to us. Ummmmmmmm they are biased–they’re biased in favor of using the scientific method. Look into that and then come back and talk to us.

]]> By: Elizabeth http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/06/18/natural-bias-on-the-beauty-brains/comment-page-1/#comment-68175 Elizabeth Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:22:46 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2523#comment-68175 Umm...who ever claimed Aveeno products were natural? Aside from the company itself. You're smart, aren't you? Read the ingredient list. I'm not sure that slathering my skin in petrochems would be considered natural. But maybe that's just me. BB is really starting to bug me. Look into real natural companies and then come back and talk to us. Till then, don't claim to be unbiased. Umm…who ever claimed Aveeno products were natural? Aside from the company itself. You’re smart, aren’t you? Read the ingredient list. I’m not sure that slathering my skin in petrochems would be considered natural.

But maybe that’s just me. BB is really starting to bug me. Look into real natural companies and then come back and talk to us. Till then, don’t claim to be unbiased.

]]> By: Irene http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/06/18/natural-bias-on-the-beauty-brains/comment-page-1/#comment-58540 Irene Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:39:36 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2523#comment-58540 Beauty brains, what exactly are your claims to authority on these subjects?? You say you are real scientists, but I don't see any scientific research being published to back up all YOUR claims. And you talk about the fear mongering thrown around by natural companies, you repeatedly claim that natural skincare can harbour all kinds of toxic bodies. I have been using organic skincare for YEARS, and never once have I had rancid cream put me in hospital or give me asthma. As opposed to hundreds of brands i tried before, who left me with eczema, dandruff, acne, asthma and impaired liver function. And no I am no inbred hillbilly with bad genes, I had several medical doctores axamine me, and they traced the health issues back to ingredients found in my products. Screw the synthetic ingredients are safer than real ones. Maybe one of you guys might contract some incurable disease from using formaldehyde, SLS, phatalates and sulphates. Then you will understand where we are all coming from. I might be more inclined to believe you guys if you come up with similar proof that you so kindly request from the nay sayers on this website. You might not be funded by a cosmetic company, but maybe some lobbyists?? You guys are in no way objective in your reviews, each of the articles I have read read worse than the previous. If this is the current state of 'scientific' debate, I am sorry but I'll stick to my SAFE AND ORGANIC cosmetics. And then your replies to some of your opponents are so childish, 'read the petroleum articles, and you bla-bla-bla the opponents. Thank you for clearing up any doubts I had about you actually being a bunch of indoctrinated and corrupt pseudo scientists. Please indulge me by giving some feedback to my questions. Please clarify to us, what institute of medicine educated you, and who pays for this website. I look forward Beauty brains, what exactly are your claims to authority on these subjects?? You say you are real scientists, but I don’t see any scientific research being published to back up all YOUR claims. And you talk about the fear mongering thrown around by natural companies, you repeatedly claim that natural skincare can harbour all kinds of toxic bodies.
I have been using organic skincare for YEARS, and never once have I had rancid cream put me in hospital or give me asthma. As opposed to hundreds of brands i tried before, who left me with eczema, dandruff, acne, asthma and impaired liver function. And no I am no inbred hillbilly with bad genes, I had several medical doctores axamine me, and they traced the health issues back to ingredients found in my products. Screw the synthetic ingredients are safer than real ones. Maybe one of you guys might contract some incurable disease from using formaldehyde, SLS, phatalates and sulphates. Then you will understand where we are all coming from.
I might be more inclined to believe you guys if you come up with similar proof that you so kindly request from the nay sayers on this website.

You might not be funded by a cosmetic company, but maybe some lobbyists?? You guys are in no way objective in your reviews, each of the articles I have read read worse than the previous. If this is the current state of ‘scientific’ debate, I am sorry but I’ll stick to my SAFE AND ORGANIC cosmetics. And then your replies to some of your opponents are so childish, ‘read the petroleum articles, and you bla-bla-bla the opponents. Thank you for clearing up any doubts I had about you actually being a bunch of indoctrinated and corrupt pseudo scientists. Please indulge me by giving some feedback to my questions.

Please clarify to us, what institute of medicine educated you, and who pays for this website.

I look forward

]]> By: Sarah http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/06/18/natural-bias-on-the-beauty-brains/comment-page-1/#comment-55536 Sarah Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:53:45 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2523#comment-55536 I really appreciate you publicizing what is also my greatest concern, the growing misinformation surrounding mainstream science and especially medicine. I am very concerned not only about more and more innocuous and helpful substances being prohibited in products (e.g., because they supposedly cause cancer) and public spaces (e.g., because they supposedly cause "chemical sensitivity"), but also about preventable and treatable diseases and medical conditions increasingly not being prevented or treated. And for communicable diseases, this of course will affect all of us (e.g., adults who were immunized but have lost their immunity to pertussis being exposed, contracting the illness, and giving it to their vulnerable infants who are too young to be immunized). My mother, a two-time cancer survivor who received conventional treatment and has had no recurrence of either cancer, subscribes to a message board in which the idea was promulgated that there is a conspiracy in mainstream science and medicine to suppress effective cancer cures. Anyone who knows someone who works in mainstream science or medicine--or IS someone who works in mainstream science or medicine--knows that that is preposterous! Every time you support a product that promotes this kind of nonsense, you are truly making the world more dangerous. I really appreciate you publicizing what is also my greatest concern, the growing misinformation surrounding mainstream science and especially medicine. I am very concerned not only about more and more innocuous and helpful substances being prohibited in products (e.g., because they supposedly cause cancer) and public spaces (e.g., because they supposedly cause “chemical sensitivity”), but also about preventable and treatable diseases and medical conditions increasingly not being prevented or treated. And for communicable diseases, this of course will affect all of us (e.g., adults who were immunized but have lost their immunity to pertussis being exposed, contracting the illness, and giving it to their vulnerable infants who are too young to be immunized). My mother, a two-time cancer survivor who received conventional treatment and has had no recurrence of either cancer, subscribes to a message board in which the idea was promulgated that there is a conspiracy in mainstream science and medicine to suppress effective cancer cures. Anyone who knows someone who works in mainstream science or medicine–or IS someone who works in mainstream science or medicine–knows that that is preposterous! Every time you support a product that promotes this kind of nonsense, you are truly making the world more dangerous.

]]> By: professorauntie http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/06/18/natural-bias-on-the-beauty-brains/comment-page-1/#comment-53347 professorauntie Sat, 08 May 2010 02:27:09 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2523#comment-53347 This is the best argument in favor of a rational approach to cosmetics that I've read so far. Thanks for sticking up for science too and for calling out Jenny McCarthy and defending vaccinations. I used to believe in the "all natural" myth, especially in the New Agey 1980s, but when I suddenly got severe hay fever, I started to re-think that belief. Then I took a few science courses at a community college and learned to think more critically. I started to base my beliefs more on evidence and less on hopes and fears. It's a little painful sometimes because the evidence is sometimes bleak (ex: climate change), but I can't go back. And more scientific thinking is our only way out of this mess anyway. Recently, I found a collection of great skeptic blogs and podcasts that evaluate things scientifically and debunk myths. One of them is the one you mentioned, Science Based Medicine. Others include The Skeptics Guide to the Universe, Skeptoid, and Skepticality. For great down-to-earth medical advice try Dr. Dean Edell, whose shows you can listen to at this link: http://www.monkeypump.com/edell/ Those skeptic websites have lists of links to other good science-based sites, but I haven't seen The Beauty Brains recommended yet. I wonder why not? Since so many people are obsessed with beauty, beauty science makes a good portal into scientific thinking in general. This is the best argument in favor of a rational approach to cosmetics that I’ve read so far. Thanks for sticking up for science too and for calling out Jenny McCarthy and defending vaccinations. I used to believe in the “all natural” myth, especially in the New Agey 1980s, but when I suddenly got severe hay fever, I started to re-think that belief. Then I took a few science courses at a community college and learned to think more critically. I started to base my beliefs more on evidence and less on hopes and fears. It’s a little painful sometimes because the evidence is sometimes bleak (ex: climate change), but I can’t go back. And more scientific thinking is our only way out of this mess anyway.

Recently, I found a collection of great skeptic blogs and podcasts that evaluate things scientifically and debunk myths. One of them is the one you mentioned, Science Based Medicine. Others include The Skeptics Guide to the Universe, Skeptoid, and Skepticality. For great down-to-earth medical advice try Dr. Dean Edell, whose shows you can listen to at this link: http://www.monkeypump.com/edell/

Those skeptic websites have lists of links to other good science-based sites, but I haven’t seen The Beauty Brains recommended yet. I wonder why not? Since so many people are obsessed with beauty, beauty science makes a good portal into scientific thinking in general.

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