Comments on: The Mascara You Should NEVER Wear With Contact Lenses http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/09/12/the-mascara-you-should-never-wear-with-contact-lenses/ Cosmetic chemists answer your beauty product questions! We are a group of cosmetic scientists who understand what the chemicals used in cosmetics really do, how products are tested, and what all the advertising means. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:42:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Lotta http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/09/12/the-mascara-you-should-never-wear-with-contact-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-75707 Lotta Thu, 06 Oct 2011 17:04:40 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2992#comment-75707 I think that basing your reasoning on a 1985 article in this case is a really, really BAD IDEA!!! Why? First of all, microfibers have gone a long way since 1985 (actually "Microfibers were first publicized in the early 1990s in Sweden and saw success as a product in Europe over the course of the decade.[4] In 2007, Rubbermaid began a line of microfiber products for American markets, the first major company to do so.[4]" from Wikipedia. Can add that we got microfiber products for consumers at around 1990 in Norway also, I remember going to microfiber homeparties at that time, modern microfiber cloths and floor mops for professional and home cleaning was the big thing that more or less exploded on the market here then, but it's use for other consumer applications, e.g. clothing and probably mascara too, came quite a bit later). They recently also began making microfibers out of several different materials, which were not possible back in 1985, so just thinking that it has to be nylon microfibers, is not even good reasoning today. ALSO, a lot has happened to contact lenses since 1985. Back in 1985, day lenses were not used, not even month lenses were used - I would think that a large portion of lens wearers today, use these types of lenses which came quite a few years later (in the 90's). A set of lenses were to last a long, long time and for that reason, make-up absorpsion and clouding of the lenses were much more of a huge concern, something that probably is not even a concern at all for most lens wearers today. Also, in 1985 it was still quite common to wear hard lenses, e.g. it was still common for people who had cataract surgery to have to use such lenses if they preferred to not (or just could not take!) wearing the "coke bottle bottom" thick eye corrective eye glasses (I remember my mother became sick to her stomach if she had to wear her glasses instead of lenses after her surgeries, the thick lenses on the glasses literally make her sick, while the lenses felt much more natural. Later she had lenses operated in, something that soon became the norm. She had surgery on her last eye in the spring of 1985. Her contact lenses were + 15.5 and + 14.5!). These hard lenses are very rarely used today, for lots of reasons, but in some cases, hard lenses is still the choice (maybe even for some with cataracts, if they for some reason can't fit them with that permanent lens? Not sure)... For these reasons, I would not look to advice given by a professional that far back. His arguments may have changed considerably since then, because of developments both in lenses, lens cleaning and make-up (incl. the use of microfibers). Also, the most serious injuries caused by fibers trapped behind lenses, was about hard contact lenses. These are But, still, had it been me, I would use fiber mascaras with some caution (and look out for loose fibers that can come loose easily after application). I do not think, however, that using such a mascara e.g. when you go out for the evening, could cause much damage if you use day lenses, if the mascara is marked safe for lens wearers (would think that well known brands have done testing etc. before taking the chance of liability because of their marking - so I would stick to those brands). Most of us would start the next day with a fresh pair of lenses anyway - so a fiber caught in between a lens and the eye would not be allowed to sit for very long (if it is small enough to not cause real discomfort so you wouldn't know of the need to take the lens out and rinse the eye/lens). If it is a fiber of a certain size, it sure would cause discomfort though, and prompt you to do something about it then and there... Another thing is that the fibers used in fiber mascara back in 1985, were huge fibers (certainly not microfibers!)! They were easy to see in the mascara, looked like shorter eyelashes that had fallen off. One of those fibers into your eye, sure caused you to do something then and there - we all know how it feels to get an eyelash into an eye, it hurts, your eye gets red and runs horribly! This subject sure reminds me of a mascara I had at that time. I could never find it again later, but it was sooooo great. It had those huge fibers (which looked great) and the mascara left your lashes as soft as if you weren't wearing anything at all. Never could find one like that one since then, it was just so much more comfy to wear than "normal" mascara!!! I mean, who wouldn't want to have great long and full lashes AND feel like you aren't wearing any make-up at all? That was exactly how that mascara was! New products doesn't always mean progress, at least it didn't in that case (but I can't even be sure if it may exist still, as I couldn't remember the brand and the writing on the tube wore off before I could get a new one)... Anyone try the bright red tube Maybelline with the brush that is short and looks almost like a ball? I loved the look of that brush, and something tells me that it may be great (always liked to apply one lash at a time and want to keep lashes nicely separated), but it is waterproof. I don't like waterproof mascara for every day use! Wish they could make another one with the same brush! Maybe I have to buy two, and swap brushes? Silly to have to do that, but if that's the only way to get that cool brush... ;) I think that basing your reasoning on a 1985 article in this case is a really, really BAD IDEA!!! Why? First of all, microfibers have gone a long way since 1985 (actually “Microfibers were first publicized in the early 1990s in Sweden and saw success as a product in Europe over the course of the decade.[4] In 2007, Rubbermaid began a line of microfiber products for American markets, the first major company to do so.[4]” from Wikipedia. Can add that we got microfiber products for consumers at around 1990 in Norway also, I remember going to microfiber homeparties at that time, modern microfiber cloths and floor mops for professional and home cleaning was the big thing that more or less exploded on the market here then, but it’s use for other consumer applications, e.g. clothing and probably mascara too, came quite a bit later). They recently also began making microfibers out of several different materials, which were not possible back in 1985, so just thinking that it has to be nylon microfibers, is not even good reasoning today. ALSO, a lot has happened to contact lenses since 1985. Back in 1985, day lenses were not used, not even month lenses were used – I would think that a large portion of lens wearers today, use these types of lenses which came quite a few years later (in the 90′s). A set of lenses were to last a long, long time and for that reason, make-up absorpsion and clouding of the lenses were much more of a huge concern, something that probably is not even a concern at all for most lens wearers today. Also, in 1985 it was still quite common to wear hard lenses, e.g. it was still common for people who had cataract surgery to have to use such lenses if they preferred to not (or just could not take!) wearing the “coke bottle bottom” thick eye corrective eye glasses (I remember my mother became sick to her stomach if she had to wear her glasses instead of lenses after her surgeries, the thick lenses on the glasses literally make her sick, while the lenses felt much more natural. Later she had lenses operated in, something that soon became the norm. She had surgery on her last eye in the spring of 1985. Her contact lenses were + 15.5 and + 14.5!). These hard lenses are very rarely used today, for lots of reasons, but in some cases, hard lenses is still the choice (maybe even for some with cataracts, if they for some reason can’t fit them with that permanent lens? Not sure)…

For these reasons, I would not look to advice given by a professional that far back. His arguments may have changed considerably since then, because of developments both in lenses, lens cleaning and make-up (incl. the use of microfibers). Also, the most serious injuries caused by fibers trapped behind lenses, was about hard contact lenses. These are

But, still, had it been me, I would use fiber mascaras with some caution (and look out for loose fibers that can come loose easily after application). I do not think, however, that using such a mascara e.g. when you go out for the evening, could cause much damage if you use day lenses, if the mascara is marked safe for lens wearers (would think that well known brands have done testing etc. before taking the chance of liability because of their marking – so I would stick to those brands). Most of us would start the next day with a fresh pair of lenses anyway – so a fiber caught in between a lens and the eye would not be allowed to sit for very long (if it is small enough to not cause real discomfort so you wouldn’t know of the need to take the lens out and rinse the eye/lens). If it is a fiber of a certain size, it sure would cause discomfort though, and prompt you to do something about it then and there…

Another thing is that the fibers used in fiber mascara back in 1985, were huge fibers (certainly not microfibers!)! They were easy to see in the mascara, looked like shorter eyelashes that had fallen off. One of those fibers into your eye, sure caused you to do something then and there – we all know how it feels to get an eyelash into an eye, it hurts, your eye gets red and runs horribly!

This subject sure reminds me of a mascara I had at that time. I could never find it again later, but it was sooooo great. It had those huge fibers (which looked great) and the mascara left your lashes as soft as if you weren’t wearing anything at all. Never could find one like that one since then, it was just so much more comfy to wear than “normal” mascara!!! I mean, who wouldn’t want to have great long and full lashes AND feel like you aren’t wearing any make-up at all? That was exactly how that mascara was! New products doesn’t always mean progress, at least it didn’t in that case (but I can’t even be sure if it may exist still, as I couldn’t remember the brand and the writing on the tube wore off before I could get a new one)…

Anyone try the bright red tube Maybelline with the brush that is short and looks almost like a ball? I loved the look of that brush, and something tells me that it may be great (always liked to apply one lash at a time and want to keep lashes nicely separated), but it is waterproof. I don’t like waterproof mascara for every day use! Wish they could make another one with the same brush! Maybe I have to buy two, and swap brushes? Silly to have to do that, but if that’s the only way to get that cool brush… ;)

]]> By: katherine http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/09/12/the-mascara-you-should-never-wear-with-contact-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-66111 katherine Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:02:04 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2992#comment-66111 This isn't a comment about mascara, but about the person who had thread-like debris in her eyes. It 's possible that the debris (but not the black color) may be the result of an allergy. I had that sort of uncomfortable debris in my eyes for years. I thought it was protein deposits, but it was an allergic response to thirmasol etc. in the contact lens solutions I was using. Clean and Clear or any solution that's hydrogen peroxide based (the kind that burns if you get it in your eyes before it's neutralized) might help. This isn’t a comment about mascara, but about the person who had thread-like debris in her eyes. It ‘s possible that the debris (but not the black color) may be the result of an allergy. I had that sort of uncomfortable debris in my eyes for years. I thought it was protein deposits, but it was an allergic response to thirmasol etc. in the contact lens solutions I was using. Clean and Clear or any solution that’s hydrogen peroxide based (the kind that burns if you get it in your eyes before it’s neutralized) might help.

]]> By: linda http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/09/12/the-mascara-you-should-never-wear-with-contact-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-55539 linda Sat, 26 Jun 2010 02:15:22 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2992#comment-55539 I don't wear contacts but I do have a problem with mascara fibers they seem to build up despite scrupulous cleaning. I have a residue of black thread like debris in my eyes.The eye doctor suggested not wearing any but he is a male and unarare of how much I miss it. It seems to me Clinique has been a problem though I am told their simplest mascara has no fibers.Fresh makes a good one but it is expensive- I tried neutrogena OK not much oomph basically I need something that washes off easily not waterproof and has some lash building without fibers- thanks linda I don’t wear contacts but I do have a problem with mascara fibers they seem to build up despite scrupulous cleaning. I have a residue of black thread like debris in my eyes.The eye doctor suggested not wearing any but he is a male and unarare of how much I miss it. It seems to me Clinique has been a problem though I am told their simplest mascara has no fibers.Fresh makes a good one but it is expensive- I tried neutrogena OK not much oomph basically I need something that washes off easily not waterproof and has some lash building without fibers- thanks linda

]]> By: rowena http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/09/12/the-mascara-you-should-never-wear-with-contact-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-54972 rowena Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:17:41 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2992#comment-54972 this article really helps a lot.thanks.i'll be more cautious on buying mascara next time as i wear contact lens too(sometimes cosmetic lens,sometimes soft lens) this article really helps a lot.thanks.i’ll be more cautious on buying mascara next time as i wear contact lens too(sometimes cosmetic lens,sometimes soft lens)

]]> By: Sarah http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/09/12/the-mascara-you-should-never-wear-with-contact-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-44451 Sarah Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:34:53 +0000 http://thebeautybrains.com/?p=2992#comment-44451 Is Loreal's Double Extend Beauty Tubes Mascara safe for contact lens wearers? It definitely is meant to lengthen lashes, but i do not see nylon listed in the ingredients. it does list rayon as an ingredient, i'm not sure if thats okay or not. Is Loreal’s Double Extend Beauty Tubes Mascara safe for contact lens wearers? It definitely is meant to lengthen lashes, but i do not see nylon listed in the ingredients. it does list rayon as an ingredient, i’m not sure if thats okay or not.

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