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	<title>Comments on: Is There An Alternative to SkinCeuticals Products?</title>
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		<title>By: machine</title>
		<link>http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/11/26/is-there-an-alternative-to-skinceuticals-products/comment-page-1/#comment-43803</link>
		<dc:creator>machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suck at html tags; here again is the third article in the list: 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18641349?ordinalpos=24&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mechanisms by which HA augments the skin&#039;s native self-defense mechanisms (this one&#039;s quite technical, hope you&#039;re well-versed in cell bio)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suck at html tags; here again is the third article in the list: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18641349?ordinalpos=24&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum" rel="nofollow">Mechanisms by which HA augments the skin&#8217;s native self-defense mechanisms (this one&#8217;s quite technical, hope you&#8217;re well-versed in cell bio)</a></p>
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		<title>By: machine</title>
		<link>http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/11/26/is-there-an-alternative-to-skinceuticals-products/comment-page-1/#comment-43802</link>
		<dc:creator>machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too find your reasoning questionable at best. Can you find me an article in a peer-reviewed journal that suggests that a) multinational corporate skincare manufacturers such as P&amp;G employ &quot;the best skin scientists in the world;&quot; b) that these companies also employ the &quot;most rigorous testing;&quot; and c) that since these elite cosmetic chemists don&#039;t include sodium hyaluronate in their products, it is probably not a viable or beneficial ingredient? C&#039;mon.

While you work on that, here are some clinical trials, published in peer-reviewed dermatological journals, that demonstrate statistically significant (!!) efficacy of sodium hyaluronate/hyaluronic acid (HA) and its related compounds in a wide range of dermatological (not to mention ocular, oncological, and surgical) applications.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15452406?ordinalpos=117&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;An overview of hyaluronic acid and its clinical uses; note their characterization of HA&#039;s hygroscopic effects as &quot;remarkable&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12182235?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=2&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;On the role of HA compounds in reducing free radical damage&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a&gt;Mechanisms by which HA augments the skin&#039;s native self-defense mechanisms (this one&#039;s quite technical, hope you&#039;re well-versed in cell bio)&lt;/a&gt;


Note that the abstracts begin with definitive statements regarding HA (e.g. &quot;...is a glycosaminoglycan that increases collagen production&quot;). Needless to say, you can&#039;t make such declarative statements in scientific journal articles unless the statement has been repeatedly, reliably, and consistently corroborated to the point where citing a source for said statement is unnecessary.

It is true that the high molecular weight (MW) of some HA compounds is a barrier to their topical efficacy. Higher MW compounds are frequently used in surgical cosmetic procedures (e.g. Restylane) for obvious reasons. However, low MW compounds exist and have been FDA approved for over a decade (e.g. diclofenac, a topical NSAID that employs HA as a vehicle for drug delivery). When micronized, HA readily penetrates the dermis, and since HA is native and uniform across organisms, it is easily utilized by dermal cells once present. Given the demonstrated efficacy of low MW preparations with respect to transdermal uptake, is it too vast a mental leap to presume that, once present in the intercellular matrix of the dermis, HA compounds will exert the same hygroscopic, collaged-repairing, and keratinocyte-promoting effects that have been repeatedly observed in vitro and with injectables?

Lastly, if P&amp;G&#039;s material chemists are really the brightest and their standards the most rigorous, why are their products continually &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cosmeticsdesign-europe.com/Products-Markets/Procter-and-Gamble-ads-for-instant-wrinkle-filler-unsubstantiated&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;called out&lt;/a&gt; for false advertising claims?

Would absolutely love a reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too find your reasoning questionable at best. Can you find me an article in a peer-reviewed journal that suggests that a) multinational corporate skincare manufacturers such as P&amp;G employ &#8220;the best skin scientists in the world;&#8221; b) that these companies also employ the &#8220;most rigorous testing;&#8221; and c) that since these elite cosmetic chemists don&#8217;t include sodium hyaluronate in their products, it is probably not a viable or beneficial ingredient? C&#8217;mon.</p>
<p>While you work on that, here are some clinical trials, published in peer-reviewed dermatological journals, that demonstrate statistically significant (!!) efficacy of sodium hyaluronate/hyaluronic acid (HA) and its related compounds in a wide range of dermatological (not to mention ocular, oncological, and surgical) applications.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15452406?ordinalpos=117&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum" rel="nofollow">An overview of hyaluronic acid and its clinical uses; note their characterization of HA&#8217;s hygroscopic effects as &#8220;remarkable&#8221;</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12182235?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=2&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed" rel="nofollow">On the role of HA compounds in reducing free radical damage</a></p>
<p><a>Mechanisms by which HA augments the skin&#8217;s native self-defense mechanisms (this one&#8217;s quite technical, hope you&#8217;re well-versed in cell bio)</a></p>
<p>Note that the abstracts begin with definitive statements regarding HA (e.g. &#8220;&#8230;is a glycosaminoglycan that increases collagen production&#8221;). Needless to say, you can&#8217;t make such declarative statements in scientific journal articles unless the statement has been repeatedly, reliably, and consistently corroborated to the point where citing a source for said statement is unnecessary.</p>
<p>It is true that the high molecular weight (MW) of some HA compounds is a barrier to their topical efficacy. Higher MW compounds are frequently used in surgical cosmetic procedures (e.g. Restylane) for obvious reasons. However, low MW compounds exist and have been FDA approved for over a decade (e.g. diclofenac, a topical NSAID that employs HA as a vehicle for drug delivery). When micronized, HA readily penetrates the dermis, and since HA is native and uniform across organisms, it is easily utilized by dermal cells once present. Given the demonstrated efficacy of low MW preparations with respect to transdermal uptake, is it too vast a mental leap to presume that, once present in the intercellular matrix of the dermis, HA compounds will exert the same hygroscopic, collaged-repairing, and keratinocyte-promoting effects that have been repeatedly observed in vitro and with injectables?</p>
<p>Lastly, if P&amp;G&#8217;s material chemists are really the brightest and their standards the most rigorous, why are their products continually <a href="http://www.cosmeticsdesign-europe.com/Products-Markets/Procter-and-Gamble-ads-for-instant-wrinkle-filler-unsubstantiated" rel="nofollow">called out</a> for false advertising claims?</p>
<p>Would absolutely love a reply.</p>
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		<title>By: thebeautybrains</title>
		<link>http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/11/26/is-there-an-alternative-to-skinceuticals-products/comment-page-1/#comment-34472</link>
		<dc:creator>thebeautybrains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a number of explanations.  For example.

1.  You&#039;ve found old product.  Products can be produced and last on store shelves for over 2 years.  

2.  They have a loyal following.  The big companies are slow to adapt new technology when they have a successful product.  Every change could result in annoying current customers.  Instead of changing older, successful products, they launch new products with the new technology.  Then they slowly phase out the old ones.

But what exactly is the problem with our logic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a number of explanations.  For example.</p>
<p>1.  You&#8217;ve found old product.  Products can be produced and last on store shelves for over 2 years.  </p>
<p>2.  They have a loyal following.  The big companies are slow to adapt new technology when they have a successful product.  Every change could result in annoying current customers.  Instead of changing older, successful products, they launch new products with the new technology.  Then they slowly phase out the old ones.</p>
<p>But what exactly is the problem with our logic?</p>
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		<title>By: remlon</title>
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		<dc:creator>remlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a problem with your logic that says that because big corporations like Johnsons and P&amp;G are able to employ the best cosmetic scientists in the world that they&#039;re the brands to go for. If this is true, then why are there still a number of Neutrogena products (made by Johnsons) with no UVA protection in their sunscreen? Just yesterday I picked up one whose active ingredients were Ensuilzole and Octinoxate. That&#039;s IT. That&#039;s not so great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a problem with your logic that says that because big corporations like Johnsons and P&amp;G are able to employ the best cosmetic scientists in the world that they&#8217;re the brands to go for. If this is true, then why are there still a number of Neutrogena products (made by Johnsons) with no UVA protection in their sunscreen? Just yesterday I picked up one whose active ingredients were Ensuilzole and Octinoxate. That&#8217;s IT. That&#8217;s not so great.</p>
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		<title>By: Marzenka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marzenka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using NOW Hyaluronic Acid Serum for $10 - and it&#039;s great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using NOW Hyaluronic Acid Serum for $10 &#8211; and it&#8217;s great.</p>
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