From Arbonne to What Now???

jabby2us

I have been using Arbonne skin care products (Nutrimin -- Cleanser/Tonor/Day and Night Cream) and read the review from The Beaty Brains re: Arbonne and I believe that what you are saying about it is true. I do like it -- but I don't like the price -- especially with the small bottles that you receive from them. I am wanting to switch to something comparable but with a smaller price tag. I would prefer to just go to a store and pick it up without having to order it on-line or from a consultant. Can someone recommend something that is compatable to Arbonne that you have found to be really good.

Thanks.

vananners

I'm not sure what's comparable to Arbonne but I find that it's not really that great of a brand anyway, especially for the price. At the drugstore, Olay is your best bet. Very well formulated and packed with antioxidants, etc. Just be sure to get the fragrance free versions if they're offered.

Left Brain

@jabby2us - vananners is right, Olay is a product that most people are quite satisfied with. P&G does a lot of consumer testing so this is not surprising. But there are other drugstore brands that people like such as Neutrogena.
You just have to try different products and figure out which one you like the best.

opalsky

Proctor and Gamble's customer testing is done for demographic purposes, only. They are very trendy and have an innovative Research and Development
team. Their mascara has been tested on an eyeball which has been implanted in a cat's forehead. Scratches have been placed on animal skin to test the
degree to which an ingredient can be tolerated without infection. Their blind, corporate abuse is unforgivable and my vanity will never more important than
their lives. Amino Genesis is a remarkable skin care line with an innovative synergy of ingredients far ahead of conventional brands. No animal by-products
or testing. Their Chemist created a blend of ingredients which did not need 4 layers of flesh to validate it's quality and effectiveness. By the way, I do not work
for their company, but I have used their line for a year and my skin has never looked better. Oh, Arbonne's new liquid foundation is lovely. A wonderful variety
of skin tones and a consistency which can be applied to any skin type which has been moisturized, accordingly. Thank you for letting me share!

sarahf

Left,
Is animal testing generally done on an eyeball implanted in a cat's forehead?

lindygirl1960

I will echo Sarah here. Seriously? An eyeball implanted in a cat's forehead?

opalsky

I am in the process of finding the photograph I saw, which showed the cosmetic experiment in which an eyeball was placed in the forehead of a cat.
I am a member of the Humane Society of the United States, Mercy for Animals, and PETA. I have seen the most horrific pictures one could imagine.
It is very important to me that I find this laboratory photograph for you to see. I will post a website or a source as soon as I can. Thank you, sarahf and
lindygirl1960, for your concern and curiosity.

lindygirl1960

My grandma told me something when I was growing up that has served me well, "Don't believe everything you read and only half of what you see." Even if you have a picture of this there are no guarantees that it was not photoshopped.

The Brains can tell you for sure if this sort of thing happens in cosmetics companies and personal care products companies Research and Development Departments. After all the Brains ARE cosmetic chemists.

sarahf

I guess I could imagine that you might grow a type of tissue (like ocular tissue) by patching the cells you wanted to grow *temporarily* to a living organism, in order to stimulate the cells to develop into specialized tissue suitable for in vitro testing. I tried to do a search to find some info on how these tissues are grown just to see if this might be the case, but couldn't really find much. Google was overwhelmed by non-reliable internet garbage.

sarahf

I haven't been able to find anything about artificially implanted or patched eyes. But I did go to HSUS, and what I found suggests that Procter & Gamble is actually very involved in support of innovative testing methods that would avoid animal tests and spare animals' lives and suffering.
http://www.humanesociety.org/news/press_releases/2009/06/epa_eye_irritation_labeling_060409.html
http://www.humanesociety.org/news/press_releases/2008/12/hsus_and_procter_and_gamble_announce_alternative_awards_121708.html

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