Aveda has a nice dark blue eye pencil you might like (but I'm not sure that it's better than one you'd get in a drugstore). It's subtle, it's not heavy. Generally, in my experience, pencils of any brand (true pencils that you use a sharpener for) will give you the most subtle effect. I also like blue liner to accentuate my green-blue eyes. You can also use a brown pencil that matches the tone of your lashes. I'm not sure whether the expensive brands are necessarily any better than drugstore brands.

I've heard good things about NYC. Don't feel like you have to try aveda specifically, unless you can't find what you want where you normally shop. But whatever brand you like, I would try pencils rather than liquid or gel liners and see if that gives you the subtle effect you're looking for. I have the same color eyelashes as you and I use dark brown rather than black liner, it looks softer.

Thank you beautycutie--not really an expert, I'm just a person who discovered makeup pretty late--I'm about where you are now, just finding out about it all:) I started out at 15 wearing blush and lipstick, and that's all I wore regularly until a couple of years ago.

I think if you "whisper" only the person you are writing to can see it. I'm glad you are trying to skip over the "overdone makeup" stage. A lot of people your age go overboard before they figure out that subtle actually looks better!

Rimmel makes some good eyeliner pencils too. Also the Revlon Color Stay pencils are good. And Sarah is right...don't think that just because a product is not expensive it is not a good product. NYC makes some really good products!

You might want to go on makeupalley.com and do some reading there. You do have to become a member but it is free. Just lots of posts from regular people rating the products they have tried.

Another thought....have you tried using eyeshadow to line your eyes? It gives a subtle look. You just need an angled brush and shadow in whatever color you choose. Dampen the brush, swipe it across the powder and line away. You could probably find some video on how to if you have problems figuring out exactly how to do it.

I use shadows as liners too.  I don't use water, I use a trish mcevoy (overpriced) product (I think it's called "finish line eye") that you wet the angled brush with before putting the shadow on the brush, and it makes the shadow waterproof.  The only thing is, with that method, I find the line is pretty dark when compared with pencil.  Although it might not be if you used water, or a lighter colored shadow?
Although they are expensive, I can highly recommend trish mcevoy brushes.  I love them--very high quality.  I use her angled eyelining brush.

Ok! Thanks guys! I'll try t and tell you how it goes.

Rimmel makes some nice color eyeliners -- I use Sonia Kashuk's gel liner for Black and Brown just because I prefer the look. Also -- I agree that eyeshadow as eyeliner is a great way to change it up. The ecotool's brushes are really nice, too. I've converted nearly all of my brushes to their line I like them so much. Good luck and have fun!

If you can't find them in your local stores the eco tools brushes are also available online from drugstore.com. (I couldn't find them where I live!)

I really like Avon Glimmersticks eyeliners. They go on like a pencil but they don't need sharpening. And it lasts well (doesn't fade).

agree with that on Avon Glimmersticks. I won't use any other type now because they stay put and are much easier to use and nicer feeling then normal pencils.

You could try the color Icon eye pencils and the mega eyes defining marker, both by wet n wild. the pencil goes on very smooth, almost gel like, and has a lot of light colors for you to chose from. The marker is just that- it's like a felt tip marker with a super-fine point, it's very easy to apply. And I've found the pencils for $0.99 before!