I have been reading this website lot, including the forum, and one of the thing that seems to come up a lot is Acne. Now I am a very lucky girl it seems since I am don't have it, have never really had it. The only thing I have are blackheads around my chin and some spot, and some spots around period time but certainly not what I would call acne.
Anyway, I wanted to know if there would be a correlation between using extensive products against acne, and covering up with make up and acne itself?
As you might have read in the Introduce yourslef post, I do not wear much make up ( usually my eyes, but very rarely my face, and I never use a foundation ( absolutely hate the feeling of that on my face). I would use powder ( I treated myself to some Guerlain meteorites some time ago ( and I am starting to stress about bacterias in it!) )but that's all.
Now we(you)'ve been talking extensively about mineral oil that don't let the skin breathe, and I was wondering if wearing foundation ( but not obviously with mineral oil, just anything that would cover and prevent your skin from breathing properly) when you have acne doesn't make it worse.
It's just that I am feeling quite sad ( and I certainly don't mean that in a patronising way) to read that so many of you are having this problem, while so many of you are using everything you could to prevent outbreak, hence why I am wondering if they're related.
The only time when I had problem with my skin, I used a facesoap from living nature and that cleared it all, but they have now changed the formula and I can't see that results I used to so I stopped using it and it's well expensive too.
Anyway I wanted to know what you thought about this. Might be a crap thread to be honest, but I really was wondering about this.
I only get the occasional small pimple (one or two a month max usually), probably due to the fact that I use a 2.5% benzoyl peroxide lotion each night as a preventative measure. I'm not sure if I'd have what people define as acne if it wasn't for the treatment I use. I can't speak for everyone, but for me at least, no foundation, whether liquid or powder, breaks me out. I know some people who get pimples opt for oil-free liquid foundation formulas, but I have found that is unnecessary to do for my skin, since it's fine with whatever I put on it. I've gotten the sense that wearing foundation isn't a problem for most people with acne.
My parents are fairly old school, and my dad kept ramming into my head that using make up and hair products was not good for me. Point proven everytime I would have zits after putting make up on, or when I started losing my hair ( probably a bit of stress + hormones), which my dad put down to the perms ( yeah I know :shamed: ) and the many colours I did ( but which didn't work since I have black hair and wouldn't have been allowed to bleach it)
I have therefore always had that at the back of my mind.
My mom also told me ( and I know it's anecdotal, but that's one of the reason why I put that thread on in the first place) that she used to work with a girl with whom she was also friend, who had terrible acne, and in order to hide it would put loads of foundation on, which in turn seemed to make her acne worse, which lead to a endless circle. Now I know that was the 60's or 70's and I am sure there's been loads of research done and that make up nowadays is probably better than it used to me, but that has always stuck in my mind.
I know it's kinda of easy for me to draw these conclusions as I have never had the problem, maybe things would have been different if I did have acne.
SO why did you start wearing make up? Was it coz all your friend at school did or because you were having skin problems you wanted to hide?
To appease people, even though I don't have acne, i am far from perfect. I have fairly thick skin on my face, never used to wear sun protection as a kid, and now I am pretty sure that I have sun marks on my nose that look like freckles but aren't, I get zits on my arms and legs, and I get ingrown hairs. I am also one of the hairiest person I know ( and I include blokes in too, ha ha ha),a nd even though people tell me my hair is nice, I don't think so, it's very black so I can't die it much unless I bleached, (and I don't want pee coloured hair, thanks very much,) and if I do use a colour ( which I do from time to time, but with no apparent results) my hair then turns a dirty shade of brown ( god knows why) and finally I get one spot at the back of my head where hair grows like wool ( feels as wool and I end up with one big dreadlock, nice!) and that I can't explain either....
Hi there,
I'm an esthetician, and I can honestly say that it depends on what kind of foundation the person is wearing as to whether it makes them break out or not. Also, personally speaking it is true for me as well. Virtually across the board, MAC foundation and concealer are famous for breaking people out, as well as Mary Kay, Cover Girl and Maybelline. Bare Minerals and other mineral powder products, not so much. Although you get the occasional client who swears that is the only thing they started wearing that broke their face out horribly. As to the question of which came first, the acne or the foundation, that is a good one. I think I started wearing foundation after I broke out as a teen and I think it was Cover Girl. I'm pretty sure I made it worse and I remember back then it was Oxy 10 (the pads) and I'd use those scratchy things like crazy and apply the 10% peroxide cream. Then I would scratch my face even more with St. Ives scrub and tone it with Sea Breeze afterwards. I gave myself more zits than nature ever could, stripping my natural ph and oils beautifully :), LOL.
No one will be bitter at you for saying you don't have acne, really! There's no need to appease anyone.
We all have our own issues about our appearance, many of which are actually completely unwarranted because people are always far more critical of themselves than they should be. Not to mention the awful psychological problem we're almost all guilty of- the wanting of what we don't already have. For instance, what's wrong with very black hair? Why do you want to change its color? Black hair is beautiful- look at Kim Kardashian, among many other people. I have dark hair I've never dyed, and I wouldn't want to- aside from the fact that dying hair is a damaging process, I'm perfectly happy with dark hair. It suits me just fine. (Though, of course, I'd prefer if it was naturally straight, fuller, etc. etc.)
I started wearing makeup in the 7th grade because I enjoyed makeup. It had nothing to do with a skin problem- that didn't come until high school. My mother never wore makeup, and most of my friends didn't when I started wearing it. I just liked the application, experimenting with colors and the results, which did help my suffering self-confidence in middle school. Perhaps it's because I lack artistic ability in other capacities, makeup is a creative outlet for me. The fact that it can mask blemishes and redness and dark under eye circles, make my lashes appear fuller, etc. is a great bonus; it provides me with a confidence boost to go along with the fun.
A lot of makeup isn't suitable for people with very sensitive skin, maybe you were in that category, which is why makeup would cause you to break out? I really don't know how to explain what you experienced. I can understand why your parents may have had concerns about products and makeup. I'm sure they were just looking out for you, thinking that preventing you from having bad experiences with products would protect your self esteem.
Thanks for the message, and your nice note. It felt a bit awkward to go and point to people that they have a problem, while seemignly gloating about the fact that I don't. I used to be a nightmare when I was a kid, and use to " make face masks with mud and clay found in a river near where I was going to on holidays, things with rose petals and stuff. Don't know if that could have "damaged " my skin.
The thing about my hair is that I really would love to change the colour of it, but then I get a lot of compliment from people who are trying to get dark hair but can't get nice results. At least that's 1 colour I can master....
Oooooh I just wish I had the internet at home so I could speak a bit longer but I am at work now,and I want to go home, so I'll have to leave you at the moment....
Don't worry people though, England is not THAT backward, just my household is... Hopefully if my boyfriend took the hint ( Him: What would you like for your B'day? Me: Oh I'd love Bjork's oldest albums, but I can get the clips on her website so No, hhhmmm, well the internet, maybe, with a webcam so I can speak to my parents)< What a hint, but I guess osmetimes you have to spell it out and backwards for blokes to get it, he he he, so maybe in a few weeks time I'll be able to....
Hm.. personally, I started getting acne and breaking out when I was about 9, right when I got my period. Obviously I wasn't wearing make up at that age.
Afterwards, I'd just wear foundation for dance performances and tall flag competitions, which I absolutely hated. You were there sweating your butt off, and then thick gooey make up is sliding down your face. It's disgusting. However, by high school-ish I would occassionally wear eyeshadow and lip gloss.
It wasn't until college that I started wearing foundation, powder (sometimes), blush, mascara, concealer, and all that shebang. Coincidentally my face cleared up a bit, which made wearing make up easier. It's just easier to apply make up when my skin isn't all broken out. And I hate concealing! I suck at blending, and dotting each and every pimple or discoloration on my face just makes me feel even more self conscious about my skin. But I love eyeshadows and blush and lip gloss. It's sooo fun applying all the different colors and trying out new things. I think I'm like browneyedgirl in that it's my creative outlet, too. I suck at drawing, aside from drawing a pig, a cat, and stick figures (my pig and cat totally rock though).
Anyhow.. that's my story.
And black hair is beautiful, but so is trying out new hair colors. I have dark dark black hair naturally, but it's so dark that it washes out my skin tone. I look really pale when I have black hair. Light browns and honey blondes make me look really dark. I think dark reds look just right on my skin tone. Again, I just love experimenting new colors. Even though I'm staying in the dark red family, I always try something different. =D
So, you've bleached your hair to get to a lighter colour. have you had any disaster?
My birthday is very soon ( Arrgh the big 30!!!) and your message kind of spurred me on to change my hair colour as a present to myself ( I ave been thinking about it a lot but I really don't want to have yellow pee hair). A friend of mine is a hairdresser so I will ask him if he thinks we could work something out....
Please let me know if you can give any piece of advice re: colouring dark hair to a lighter shade.
I only bleach little sections for highlights, and I try not to do that too often. I know my stylist uses the Koleston Perfect line from Wella. The dye is pretty strong. It makes my scalp super red, and for a week it looks like I have red dandruff. I know, gross!
I can ask my stylist for you on what you can do. However, I don't know how much advice she can give without seeing your hair.
Taiwanesegurl, Thanks but like you said it's probably better if someone sees my hair first.
I'll speakto my mate, and we'll see if it can be done.
If not, might do some red highlights, that will make a bit of a difference.
I would like to point out that acne is primarily caused by hormones and facial bacteria. The products you do or don't put on your face have little to do with how bad the condition is. Although the use of face make-up is not recommended, it is usually the talc or other ingredients that can make the problem worse not the mineral oil which the bacteria cannot consume and the other ingredients only make it worse when the pores are already enlarged enough to become blocked by the particles or are an irritant. Washing with a mild cleanser and using a mild antiseptic or anti-acne cream - On The Blemishes ONLY and getting 15 to 20 mins. sun exposure every day and letting it run its course are the best remedies yet for mild to moderate cases. Excessive washing, poking, squeezing, scrubbing and smearing your face with creams without a dermatologists advice are a sure-fire way to permanent scarring.