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Anyone else hate Lush?
  • I hate how their products are so offensively strong smelling that you can smell it from other parts of the mall, I hate how overpriced their products are, the poor performance, the "slackivism" of having people believe buying their stuff will change the world and most of all I hate their sexist publicity stunt where they compared animal testing to torturing women. After that I was so offended I am never going to buy one of their products ever. It is also annoying I have not gotten full use out of a lot of their products because they are not preserved properly. They capitalize off well meaning people who want "cruelty free" and natural etc... rubs me the wrong way. There is nothing progressive about them, they are just another company who wants to make money.

    (lush's campaign that turned me off them forever) http://msmagazine.com/blog/2012/04/27/no-comment-lush-protests-torture-of-animals-with-simulated-torture-of-women/comment-page-1/#comment-102639
  • I'm quite a fan of Lush. I don't shop there often because I agree, some of their range is overpriced. I buy their solid perfumes a lot, because they last a long time on me, have unique scents, and are made from an oil/wax base so they don't dry out my skin like sprays do. I also love some of their hand creams. I agree that the smell can sometimes be overwhelming, but that's really only because all their products are together in such a small space. I think they could do something like separating certain groups or putting the majority of the product in a cabinet or other visually pleasing storage space. They only need to display a small sample to let customers experience the product.

    As far as "slacktivism", I like knowing that I can help a cause while doing my usual day to day things like shopping. I don't agree with people who say that you can't change the world unless you're out there physically helping a cause.

    The publicity stunt was just that: a publicity stunt. It got the attention it was after. It was shocking, yes, because that's what it was designed to be. I think it was a wonderfully caustic way to draw attention to their principles and philosophies. The fact that women were used was a testament to the psychology behind the cause: animals are considered to be innocent, defenseless, etc, qualitites that are all emphasised by the use of young women. It was conducted safely, with permission from all involved people, so I don't see it as sexist, etc.

    You could get all cynical and offended about any company that claims to be "progressive"; it doesn't mean others can't support the idea.
  • I love the smell of some of the shower gels from Lush, but they don't perform any better than Dove or Suave body wash, both of which are a whole lot cheaper. 

    I will say that Lush makes some of the absolute worst shaving cream, especially when ill-informed sales people suggest they can be used with a shaving brush (they can't, and don't lather at all like a high-quality shaving cream or soap.) 
  • I dont believe you have to be physically there to help a cause either, I just think a company that thinks degrading women is fine for teh animals are a bunch of hypocritical jerks. I know the actress volunteered but that doesnt change the depiction of violence, if I wanted to see that I'd watch porn.
  • So you don't watch any films or TV programs that have violence in them? The stunt wasn't degrading women, it was demonstrating their commitment to a cause. They took precautions to remove some of the humanity, which harks back to what I said about the psychological correlation between young women and animals.
  • As a feminist I disagree with you, there many ways to spread their message without doing something like this.
  • I WANT to like them, I love their visuals and the strong smells actually, I just hate that for the price, it seems their products (ingredient formulas) are either average or when I'm reading them I think 'This is a BAD idea for a curly girl shampoo!'

  • Yeah total rip off it doesnt last though enough
  • I personally don't like how hand made Lush's products are. If I like low tech products I would live with the Amish. 
  • lol good point pedrom! they market it with fervor like its something to be proud of but im sure its easier to F up that way and contaminate a batch.
  • Wow, you're obviously working under the impression that handmade products don't go through any sort of quality control? They would have to adhere to the same regulations as any other brand/manufacturer. Any manufacturing process is open to contamination, which is why health and safety regulations are in place. You are being driven by your dislike to find any possible flaw in Lush's products, procedures and ethics without even considering the broader context.
  • Well to be more balanced some of their scents are very attractive (though the whole store of scents is rather an insulting behemoth to me) and the soaps with shea and have a rather enjoyable texture the thought did occur to me they would go through quality control but idk from my personal experience they go bad pretty fast, I do not doubt they do have standards but still I have read of ex workers saying they refuse to sanitize the foot baths do not clean between customers and they only clean the bowls with their shower gels/soaps or whatever which is kinda gross. I meant to agree with the low tech comment because for me I am more excited about new technological breakthroughs in personal care than the same old thing repackaged with no innovation when new chemicals are created they really are completely new and can often do things better than before or offer a better or different alternative. Of course I am "biased" as a feminist also I have had some DAMN NASTY allergic reaction to their products so that probably doesnt help. ;) I think the jellies are cool and the cute gift sets the title was just really to grab attention so people can share their own opinions on lush and especially how they choose for their messages to come across.
  • I dont really like it because even though I usually enjoy scented stuff I have had reactions to their products. I also dont see why they are so amazing that they are worth more than clothes can cost sometimes. Maybe if something caught my eye as really special and worthwhile. The shower jellies sound cool but I'm sure its possible to find shower gel with a jelly consistency for less than what they price it at.
  • ps- I do get what you are saying I think the causes of feminism and animal rights are not so different that they should give this message of one vs the other... :/