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Retinoids
  • ashes007
    Do retinoids actually prevent wrinkles or do they only work to treat existing ones?
  • vananners
    I would suggest reading up on some of Paula Begoun's articles regarding retinoids, they're very informative. Retinoids do work to prevent new wrinkles (as long as a daily SPF is used) and treat existing ones. You may not see dramatic results, especially with over the counter products. But I've heard that prescription retinol can work wonders in conjunction with SPF and a good antioxidant moisturizer.
  • Ally E.Ally E.
    vananners, BB busted the antioxidant bubble. they don't work.
  • mo
    Please share this post with me, I'm planning to spend big time on antioxidants.
  • Ally E.Ally E.
    use search :) i can't remember exactly. i was searching myself, it was awhile ago. they didn't say retinoids don't work though, they were talking about the creams "with antioxidants" as far as I can remember. someone was asking about Clinique brand. the point was that it's a waste of time and money, as they don't penetrate deep enought to actually work.
  • vananners
    Alla, I have never seen a BB article that has said Antioxidants do nothing. There WAS an article asking if antioxidants can open and clean out pores, which IS BS:

    http://thebeautybrains.com/2009/02/09/does-origins-skin-care-open-your-pores/

    And if you follow the below link, you'll see the BB direct quote: "There is evidence that topical antioxidants can reduce clinical signs of photoaged skin". This article says that antioxidants DO work just that Revaleskin is overpriced compared to other good antioxidant creams:

    http://thebeautybrains.com/2007/09/04/is-revaleskin-too-good-to-be-true/
  • mo
    I found the BB Blog post about Antioxidants but it says that they do work:
    http://thebeautybrains.com/2009/01/03/will-antioxidants-impact-your-age/

    Also, there is another post on Retinol stability:
    http://thebeautybrains.com/2009/03/05/does-green-cream-make-good-skin-care-products/
  • Anne
    I've come to the conclusion that I just can not use Retinol products, no matter how mild they are. They turn my skin red and sore. My skin has been much happier since I stopped using them.
  • Ally E.Ally E.
    i might be confusing something, but i did read about the vitamin E and such being BS. I read over 30 beauty blogs and usually its BB who do the science stuff so I just asuumed I read it here. After I couldn't find it here, i guess someone else posted it. But do you think E and berries from Brazil work to antioxidise our skin? (the article def featured brazil berries in it)
  • PurpleRulesPurpleRules
    The elusive BB post about antioxidants not working might have been lost in the Great Forumpocolyse of 2009 but it linked to this post on The Dermatology blog:
    thedermblog.com/2008/11/12/new-powerful-skin-antioxidant-from-ferns/#more-538
     
    Anne, I can't use retinoids either for the same reason.
     
  • Ally E.Ally E.
    thanks PurpleRules, this is the posts I was talking about :)
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