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Was super excited to see a new AHA released by Deciem. Wondering what you guys think of the ingredients especially the Triethanolamine – have read it can be toxic…
Aqua (Water), Glycolic Acid, Rosa damascena flower water, Centaurea cyanus flower water, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Water, Propanediol, Glycerin, Triethanolamine, Aminomethyl Propanol, Panax Ginseng Root Extract, Tasmannia Lanceolata Fruit/Leaf Extract, Aspartic Acid, Alanine, Glycine, Serine, Valine, Isoleucine, Proline, Threonine, Histidine, Phenylalanine, Glutamic Acid, Arginine, PCA, Sodium PCA, Sodium Lactate, Fructose, Glucose, Sucrose, Urea, Hexyl Nicotinate, Dextrin, Citric Acid, Polysorbate 20, Gellan Gum, Trisodium Ethylenediamine Disuccinate, Sodium Chloride, Hexylene Glycol, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate, 1,2-Hexanediol, Caprylyl Glycol.
Paula Begoun on the Beautypedia gave this company’s products luke warm reviews, interesting what they had to say about the price points and the concentrations.
Beautypedia gives just about everything that’s popular a thumbs down except their own products. I do not trust anything they review anymore.
Well, something weird is going on with Paula’s Beautypeida, FOR SURE.
Because I read the luke-warm review they had of The Ordinary Buffet- and a few days later when I went back to leave my own review they changed their own “expert” review from three to five stars and removed all the items listed in the “cons” column. The review is nearly the same, but I can’t be sure because the web archive (aka waaay back machine) didn’t save a copy of that page.
In fact, I recall thinking to myself as I sorted all of the Ordinary Products by rating on there that…. wow, they didn’t give any of these products have more than three stars. Now they have two five stars and more than a handful of four-star reviews!!!
Weird… right?
BTW, they don’t have a rating for the AHA toner.
Ciao,
L
Did you write the comment on beautypedia, that the Buffet percentage vs weight is incorrect then? Actually officially ingredients are almost always listed as percentage by weight, exactly how the Ordinary does it. The Buffet contains 6% Matrixyl vs 10% in the “Matrixyl 10%”. So with the Buffet you get a greater array of beneficial ingredients, and to see real skin improvements you have to wait about 6-12 months. Even with Retinoic Acid you will only see improvements after about 6 months…
Yes, I wrote that. But I wanted to go back to edit when I realized my error and I couldn’t. Is that 6% of Matryxyl COMPLEX or the actual active?
I think we previously wondered out loud, here somewhere, about why the actual percentages of individual actives are not listed on Buffet when they don’t seem shy to do it on all of the other products.
After using a whole bottle I was hoping to see SOME changes – seeing immediate changes with the 10% Matrixyl and Niacinamide serums made me think that Buffet is just dirty water.
Ciao,
L
Matrixyl is a tradename for a peptide complex. Every company mentions the concentration of the tradename Matrixyl. It’s a premixed sollution and simply not a single active. So also for the 10% Matrixyl, it’s not the concentration of peptides. It’s the same with the 2% Retinoid, it’s the concentration of the tradename Granactive Retinoid, not the concentration of the active Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate.
So:
10% Matrixyl contains: Matrixyl 3000 and Matrixyl Synthe’6, at a combined concentration of 10% by weightBuffet contains: Matrixyl 3000 and Matrixyl Synthe’6, at a combined concentration of 6% by weight, plus 19.1% Syn-ake, Relistase, Argirelox, probiotic complex and 11 aminoacids.
That’s weird. My previous post didn’t show. I got a message that it has been in moderation for 5 days.
Test.
Let’s try again…
Thanks, Peter.
Getting back on topic, I’m curious to hear if anyone has used this toner and what their thoughts are. I’m trying to decide between using this AHA toner or a weekly 30% AHA peel.
After I switched the formulation but kept the same strength of my Italian Retin-A equivalent I’m still peeling daily after three months so I want to help the skin along so it peels when *I* want it to. Not when I look in the mirror after a long day and notice that half my face is falling off in big chunks (note to self: check myself out more often). I’ve tried using The Ordinary 10% Lactic Acid but it doesn’t seem to be strong enough – with it I still peel daily, but in smaller pieces!
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