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October 7, 2016 at 8:39 pm #96270escherichiaMember
And oh, please do recommend good Japanese products for me hehe. I can read Japanese but I’m really seriously out of touch with skincare…
October 7, 2016 at 8:44 pm #96273preciousiaMemberspeaking of which
October 7, 2016 at 8:45 pm #96274preciousiaMemberok. pm me about what kind of japanese products u want so we stay on topic here. lolJapanese sunscreens there’s only one that is pure mineral and majority have alcohol in them!October 7, 2016 at 8:49 pm #96276escherichiaMemberHaha the video is cute, especially the model.
Now I know why all the Korean and Japanese middle-aged ladies are always decked out in big ugly hats, long pants, sunglasses and even sleeve protectors (u gotta google this; ugly but prob useful for arms). Gotta keep the sun out! LOLOctober 7, 2016 at 9:04 pm #96277PeterMemberApplying 1/4 teaspoon is indeed a lot. In theory spf goes logarithmic so applying half means 1/4 of the spf, applying 1/4 means 1/16 of the spf. But from what I’ve heard in real life its more something like a third for every time you reduce the amount by half. Although I really try to apply a lot I think I apply something like 0.5-1 mL, so not the recommended 1.25-2.5mL
Maybe you can place swatches of sunscreens on your site? Up till now I’ve tested around 60 sunscreens, but I haven’t found the perfect one yet. Some have great ingredients, but I don’t like if its really white. I also have swatches of sunscreens, but I don’t know how to post pictures here..October 7, 2016 at 9:09 pm #96278escherichiaMemberPeter! I was just thinking about the same thing! That it’d be great if people can put swatches of sunscreens they have on their hands/faces.
We can go on and on about the % but honestly, no one wants to look like a mime character when they are out. I actually saw a Japanese video that recommends patting on the sunscreen instead of rubbing it in. I was like, that’s gonna make the white cast more obvious… but yes, it’s all about creating that protective sunscreen film isn’t it? Sigh.October 7, 2016 at 9:33 pm #96287PeterMemberYes, if the products is white it’s white, you have to try to get the recommended amount. That why I l like sunscreen actives like Uvinul T150, Uvinal A Plus, Tinosorb S (not M), Uvasorb HEB, they are not extremely white on skin. Tinosorb M and Uvinal A Plus also offer extremely high UVA protection.
What I do, I apply a reasonably thick layer on my hand. Let it soak in for about 30 minutes and then look at it under various angles under normal daylight, especially indirect daylight really shows if the sunscreens leaves white cast. Also wetting your skin a bit shows if the sunscreens is white. In my opinion that’s the best way to see if a sunscreen has a potential to be white in an extreme situation. Also applying it to one half of your face helps to see what difference it makes. Applying it to your whole face and looking at it with artificial light makes it very difficult to see if it’s white, and many times I had been looking like a ghost during the day without realizing, because you only see it under specific lighting. Then I have tested many sunscreens for about 4-5 weeks on one half of my face to see how my skin reacted. But after a dozen sunscreens, I haven’t found the perfect one yet. Although from what I’ve testes so far I like the Uncover Skincare Suncare SPF30 best for its ingredients, I’ve never seen a sunscreen with such good ingredients (Tinosorb, 3% Niacinamide, 1% Green Tea extract, 1% Vitamin E), but it’s extremely white on skin. And I like the Danish brand Derma Sollotion SPF30 best because its completely invisible on skin, the only downside it’s slightly shiny and it only contains Tocopheryl Acetate (vitamine E). I also like the combination of Paula’s Choice Skin Recovery SPF30 + Paula’s Choice Resist Super Light SPF30, because in combination it’s not white, not shiny, easy to apply, and it only contains physical sunscreens, the downside they do use nano particles and I believe the concentration of antioxidants is rather low.October 7, 2016 at 9:38 pm #96288escherichiaMemberNow I am tempted to get PC’s SPF 30 sunscreen. haha
October 7, 2016 at 9:44 pm #96290preciousiaMember@Peter.. yup. i will review and place swatches on my site. since you know i am NC15… the white cast don’t show up as much as for darker skintones. but if it is white.. i’ll tell you it’s white… too white for me is a NO GO for you guys hehe.
October 7, 2016 at 9:52 pm #96292preciousiaMember@Peter How to upload photos
First upload your photo to facebook or anywhere else (you can set the privacy settings)obtain the url of the photo by right clicking and select “copy image address”follow the instructions on the photo below to finish.October 7, 2016 at 9:55 pm #96293PeterMember@eschericha
Well you can say what you want about Paula’s Choice products, but in general most of them don’t contain irritants and she makes many different textures. The Resist Cellular SPF25 only contains Titanium Dioxide and is too white for me. The Calm for oily skin is okay on its own, but because its white I need to apply something over it, the Resist Super Light SPF30 is tinted, but really ment for extremely oily skin. Applying the Calm for dry skin/Skin Recovery SPF30 first and then the Resist Super Light was a reasonable combination for me.Guys prefer invisible sunscreens otherwise you have to use foundation or powder to counteract the whitecast and although I even accept using it sometimes, it can create weird moments if someone touches your face or rubs a towel on your face and make up comes off…But I will check your site..October 7, 2016 at 9:57 pm #96294preciousiaMemberMaybe i am a girl. I don’t mind to apply anti-oxidants as a serum prior to the sunscreen. it’s really hard to find the “perfect sunscreen” because there is none.
October 7, 2016 at 10:00 pm #96295escherichiaMemberHi Peter,
Erm… I wasn’t bashing PC’s products? In fact, I haven’t tried any of them before and I’m interested in it…October 7, 2016 at 10:02 pm #96296preciousiaMember@Peter i know men. my hubby wants no fuss. A wonder product to do it all.
my dermatologist private label sunscreen is really really nice. i just got wandering eyes to look. his costs $60+ for 50g. Derm has sold his practice and retired, so i don’t find any affinity to the new owners. They have hiked their prices too. Also i got burnt using their older SPF30+ products (not suited for Australia sun) The new SPF050+ product now is much nicer and user friendly.the best way to counter the white cast is to add a tint. however getting the right tint is mighty difficult!!!i don’t like titanium dioxide as the sole sunscreen, because it is not good with UVA1 coverage, only UVA2October 7, 2016 at 10:06 pm #96297preciousiaMemberOK what do you guys think of this aussie brand
Swisse PURE MINERAL bb cream SPF30too dark for me, i applied the light beige tint, the bottom part is blended in.full ingredients:WHAT WE PUT IN:
Aqua
Isoamyl Laurate
Titanium Dioxide
Zinc Oxide
Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil
Cetearyl Alcohol
Potassium Cetyl Phosphate
Niacinamide (Vitamin B3)
Sodium PCA
Saccharide Isomerate
Hydroxypropyl Starch Phosphate
Silybum Marianum (Milk Thistle) Seed Extract
Brassica Oleracea Italica (Broccoli) Extract
Tasmannia Lanceolata (Mountain Pepper) Fruit/Leaf Extract
Polygonum Aviculare (Knotgrass) Extract
Silica
Ammonium Acryloyldimethyltaurate/ VP Copolymer
Caprylyl Glycol
Mica
Xanthan Gum
Calendula Officinalis (Calendula) Flower Extract
Rosa Canina (Rose Hip) Fruit Oil
Caprylhydroxamic Acid
Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis (Sweet Almond) Oil
Glycerin
Disodium EDTA
Polysorbate 60
Polyhydroxystearic Acid
Cetearyl Glucoside
Citric Acid, CI 77492 (Iron Oxide Yellow)
CI 77491 (Iron Oxide Red)
CI 77499 (Iron Oxide Black).95.2% naturally derived ingredients.
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