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  • #96313
    Peter
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    #96314
    preciousia
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    Paula Begoun had very problematic skin as a child. really awful if you listen to her stories.

    anyways…. that’s what started her passion in reading ingredients, medical journals and starting the company. the “Cosmetics cop”
    i haven’t used much of PC products but i am a fan of hers.
    I’m breaking into PC 2% BHA after my stridex
    i don’t agree with her ALL the time but i do MOST of the time. And even if they make an opinion, they will back it up with “science”.
    unlike her. i have less sensitive skin, so lavender essential oils are A OK for me.
    #96315
    escherichia
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    Thank you for the photos Peter! I doubt I have any sunscreens that u guys want to see the swatches of. :D

    I remember swatching the Coola sunscreen some years back and found it too white. Guess I should hit Nordstrom again… 
    #96316
    preciousia
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    We have a Mecca and Sephora here for international sunscreen.

    i suggest you guys look into this 
    i tried the “fairest” color in the store and it was a dream (Covered blemishes) and no white cast

    Paraben-free and SPF 50+ UVA/UVB Broad Spectrum, Physical Only, Non-Chemical Sunscreen. Developed with leading plastic surgeons.

    they have 5 shades. not greasy at all.



    TITANIUM DIOXIDE 9.0%, ZINC OXIDE 6.3%, Water, Snail Secretion Filtrate, Butylene Glycol, Phenyl Trimethicone, Dimethicone, Butylene Glycol Dicaprylate/Dicaprate, Orbignya Oleifera Seed Oil, Butyloctyl Salicylate, Cetyl PEG/PPG-10/1 Dimethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Cyclohexasiloxane, Magnesium Sulfate, Polyglyceryl-4 Isostearate, Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer, Aluminum Hydroxide, Hexyl Laurate, Stearic Acid, Calcium Stearate, Caprylyl Glycol, Triethoxycaprylylsilane, Ethylhexylglycerin, Phenoxyethanol, Citrus Medica Limonum (Lemon) Peel Oil, Tocopheryl Acetate, Sorbitan Isostearate, Citrus Aurantium Bergamia (Bergamot) Fruit Oil, 1,2-Hexanediol, Disodium EDTA, Citrus aurantium dulcis (orange) peel oil, Citrus Aurantifolia (Lime) Oil, Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Seed Oil, Punica Granatum Seed Oil, Pinus Sylvestris Leaf Oil, Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, Niacinamide, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Peel Oil, Anthemis Nobilis Flower Water, Lactobacillus/Honeysuckle Flower/Licorice Root/Morus Alba Root/Pueraria Lobata Root/Schizandra Chinensis Fruit/Scutellaria Baicalensis Root/Sophora Japonica Flower Extract Ferment Filtrate, Perfluorohexane, Olea Europaea (Olive) Leaf Extract, Glycerin, Eucalyptus Globulus Leaf Oil, Cholesteryl, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Chrysanthemum Indicum flower Extract, Pueraria Lobata Root Extract, Perfluorodecalin, Morus Alba Fruit Extract, Magnolia Kobus Bark Extract, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Sprout Extract, Diospyros Kaki Leaf Extract, Cinnamomum Cassia Bark Extract, Artemisia Princeps Leaf Extract, Pentafluoropropane, Curcuma Longa (Turmeric) Root Extract, Steareth-20, Hydrolyzed Hyaluronic Acid, Colloidal Oatmeal, Hydrolyzed Silk, Citric Acid, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium sorbate, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, N-Hydroxysuccinimide, Hydrolyzed Collagen, Caprylhydroxamic Acid, Tocopherol, Thiamine HCl, Riboflavin, Retinyl Palmitate, Pantothenic Acid, Palmitoyl Oligopeptide, Niacin, Folic Acid, Chrysin, Carnitine HCl, Biotin, Ascorbic Acid, Palmitoyl Tetrapeptide-7, Chlorhexidine Digluconate. May Contain: Iron Oxides (CI 77492, CI 77491, CI 77499).

    #96317
    preciousia
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    @Peter oh no.. all too white.

    thanks for sharing! i can’t imagine how white it would be on your face!
    #96318
    escherichia
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    I should look into this! I tried the Clinique’s cityblock SPF25 and it looked greasy.

    #96319
    Peter
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    I like Paula’s Choice as well, but I don’t always agree with her, so I think we feel the same about her..

    Lavender essential oil doesn’t have to be problematic in the sense that it might be irritating, but its more about the fact that increases hyperpigmentation. And it also has phyto-oestrogenic activity. Look for example at:
    Dermatotoxicoloy by Zhai, page 593 (benzyl salicylate, Ylang-ylang oil, cananga oil, jasmin, hydroxycitronellal, sandalwood oil, lavender oil, geranium oil show hydrophic degreneration of the basal layer, pigment incontinence and little evidence of inflammation). 

    Cosmetics and Dermatologic Problems and Solutions, by Zoe Draelos, page 139

    #96320
    preciousia
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    @Peter

    In the style of Peter’s shares, just took. not much white cast as you can see my natural skintone before and after. Quite a thick layer too.
    that much sunscreen i applied to hand and halfway up (before elbows)
    #96321
    escherichia
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    Peter,

    yes! I actually dot lavender oil (neat) on my skin if I have pimples etc. Instant healing. Best thing I ever discovered (although I think not everyone can take lavender oil neat on their skin).
    Preciousia!
    That Babo looks good!!!! I can’t wait for your samples man. hahahaha
    Btw, ‘babo’ in korean means idiot (my korean friend taught me this) hahaha.
    #96322
    Peter
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    The Babo Botanicals doesn’t look white at all, or at least on your skin ;-) So it has to be micronized at least, and some of the particles must fall in the nano-range. You can’t get a sunscreen with 22.5% non-nano zinc oxide look clear on skin otherwise.

    Zinc Oxide 22.5% (non-nano particles), Water (Aqua), Glycerin, Caprylic Capric Triglyceride, Sunflower (Helianthus Annuus) Seed Oil*, Hydrolyzed Jojoba Esters, Glyceryl Stearate, Methylcellulose, Stearic Acid, Rose Hip (Rosa Canina) Fruit Oil*, Green Tea( Camelia Sinensis) Extract*, Shea (Butyrospermum Parkii) Butter*, Apple (Pyrus Malus) Fruit Oil, Xanthan Gum, Caprylyl Glycol, Ethylhexylglycerin, Phenethyl Alcohol. * 
    #96323
    Peter
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    If you want to use it for pimples you may have a look at tea tree oil, that has some studies showing it works against acne. But really you don’t want these plant extracts in your sunscreen, it will cause collagen damage and increase pigmentation…

    #96324
    escherichia
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    Got it! I will try to avoid sunscreens with plant extracts. I can always get my antioxidants from separate serums. Thanks! :)

    (My friend swears by tea tree oil too)
    #96325
    preciousia
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    I agree with Peter Tea Tree oil (aussie again) is good for pimples. I tried a lavender pillow spray on my skin… no issues. no issues with diluted lavender and i love the scent. i added it in my diy toner. Will use at night only.

    @peter i think you’re right. it is definitiely on the “small” sized of the scale. hey but it is FDA approved. it still “whitens” a little, but not much at all. maybe half a shade? doesn’t budge and feels like nothing on.
    #96326
    escherichia
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    I shall swatch the Babo on my skin when I get it. I’m NC25 so thats about light-medium. If I can take it, I think Peter should be able to use it with no problems. (Im asian so I’d have yellow tone)

    #96327
    preciousia
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