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Hey Randy and Perry!
First off I just want you to know how much I appreciate and love love love your podcasts. they have really changed my perspective on beauty products!
My question is about vitamin C serums.
I was hoping you could do a whole show on how to pick the perfect vitamin C serum.
I’m personally having a lot of trouble finding the right one. I’ve heard that once the vitamin c becomes yellow or orange, it becomes less effective because it has been exposed to oxygen. Would an air tight container help this?! Do you know of any air tight container ones? I’ve also heard that it’s better to start at a low active percentage and work your way up in order to avoid skin reactions (for those with sensitive skin). Is this true?
Another concern is that my vitamin serum causes very tiny breakouts over my face a few days after I use the serum (I used the jeffrey james Botanicals “The Light Age-defying c serum”). By the way, I never break out. I’ve had clear skin for as long as I could remember. This was frightening to me and I completely stopped using the serum but I still want the benefits of it! Is there a certain combination of ingredients in vitamin c serums that can avoid such breakouts?
Thanks a lot !!!!! Xoxoxo
hi butt.bisma!
We love the 2 cosmetic scientist, interesting how they names rhyme too and end with a Y.TBB have published several posts and answered forum questions on Vitamin C. It’s a popular topic!
See- Which kind of vitamin C is best for skin? Episode 31
- Vitamin C oxidizing on skin and staining orange?
- How to use vitamin C serums?
- Does your Vitamin C lotion contain a dangerous ingredient?
- Vitamin C and Benzoyl Peroxide
- If You Have to Choose — Hyaluronic Acid or Vitamin C Serum
- Cheap Vitamin C Cream
- DIY vitamin C serum …
- Preserving Vitamin C serums
- When does a cosmetic become a drug? eg Skinceuticals Vitamin C
- What’s the best skin lightening ingredient? Episode 35 including Vitamin C
- Vita Skin Vitamin C Serum – look at the label
- Ultima Pure Swiss Hyaluronic Acid Serum – Look at the label
- Can I freeze my Skinceuticals Vitamin C serum?
- About vitamin C. Again.
- Vitamin C or stronger Retinoid Rx?
- OZ Naturals Vitamin C Serum – Look at the label
- Signature Club Vitamin C capsules – look at the label
- Is my vitamin C cream giving me cancer
- Do vitamin c boosters really work?
- Should you soak in Vitamin C?
- Does Vitamin C cause sun sensitivity?
- InstaNatural vitamin C
- Signature Club Anti-Wrinkle Capsules – Look at the label
- Rosehip oil does not contain vitamin C.
- Will dermal rolling get rid of acne scars? Episode 45 – including Vitamin C ascorbyl tetra-isopalmitate 10%
- Her Organics Ageless Serum uses a vitamin C derivative that doesn’t convert well to ascorbic acid
- Can facial cleansers deliver active ingredients like AHAs and vitamin C?
With regards to your breakouts, perhaps you can check if the product contain comedogenic ingredient. YMMV, everyone react differently to different ingredients.
the one you were using
Ingredients: Organic herbal blend, organic aloe barbadensis leaf (aloe), argan stem cells, sodium ascorbyl phosphate (vitamin C), methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), cassia angustifolia seed polysaccharide (botanical hyaluronic acid), hamamelis virginiana (witch hazel), l-arginine, kosher vegetable glycerin, organic simmondsia chinensis (jojoba oil), vitamin E potassium sorbate, ethyl hexyl glycerin.
18% Active Vitamin C
Paraben & Sulfate Free
Gluten Free
i ran Jeffrey James Botanicals “The Light Age-defying C serum thru the comedogenic search and this was the results ” No acne causing ingredients found“
hope this helps
>Do you know of any air tight container ones?Drunk Elephant but they are not cheap. I use a vitamin C derivative serum which is more stable, less irritating to the skin and i decant it to an airless pump bottle myself>I’ve heard that once the vitamin c becomes yellow or orange, it becomes less effective because it has been exposed to oxygen.i find they start oxidising even before the color shows a hint of yellow (we are referring to L Ascorbic Acid, a v. oxidative unstable ingredient when suspended in water). You could consider anhydrous formulae (no water) or use the other Vitamin C derivatives.> I’ve also heard that it’s better to start at a low active percentage and work your way up in order to avoid skin reactions (for those with sensitive skin). Is this true?YES. Always start low. Actives like L Ascorbic acid can really irritate the skin for some.As always, i quote someone wise who taugh me thisMORE IS NOT BETTEREnough is Good.This L Ascorbic acid vitamin C caught my eye
made by Manyo Factory (owned by AmorePacific who has 80% of the skincare market share in Korea)this band doesn’t use parabens, petrolchemicals etc, focusing on organic skincare.What is interesting is that they advises to use up the Vitamin C in 1 month and toss.Also that the vitamin C crystals is added not at the factory but by the user when you receive the item!
Ingredients:Ingredients: sea buckthorn, ascorbic acid, butyleneglycol, glycerin, Niacinamide, lemon extract myrciaria, myrciaria seed extract, rosehip extract, citron extract, polyglyceryl-10 myristate, polyglyceryl-10 laurat, Masha extract, licorice extract, Lactobacillus, fermented yeast filtrate extract, cherry fruit, propanediol, beta-glucan, bilberry extract, grape seed extract, orange extract, black cherry extract, tomato extract, apricot extract, zanthoxylum extract, Pulsatilla vulgaris, usnea barbata extract, lavender angustifolia extract, acerola cherry extract, ziziphus extract, litsea cubeba.
I started my own 10% vitamin C serum every night, but my skin became flaky!
So, be carefull with high concentration.Ascorbic Acid is very unstable in water, so personally I like The Ordinary Vitamin C Suspension much more since this is anhydrous and only costs 6 dollars.
agree. i clogged from the best Vitamin C by the Ordinary. Vitamin C suspension contains a comedogenic rating 4 Coconut alkanes… so does the Ascorbyl Tetraisopalmitate.Just the presence of 1 ingredient rating 4 will render the whole product comedogenic for those who clog easily. YMMV. Not everyone’s skin react the some.The other 2 are ok though. (i hope). So far i tried the Ordinary Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate 10% and that doesn’t clog but… the performance is sub par… tbh my Mad Hippie Vitamin C surpass this.I’ll try the Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution next.referencing the vitamin C suggestions @Lemon asked about November last year. I wonder if Lemon is still lurking around… if so… let us know how you go with Timeless Serum!
- Which kind of vitamin C is best for skin? Episode 31
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