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@escherichia My Blog address is LoveNeedWant.com
My blog is new, I have only started 14 May this year. Less than 5 months old.Some of the links i have shared, are hyperlinks, the words should appear red on your screen, so you can just click on them, you can see more.
The links you were after:1) Mineral sunscreen List http://loveneedwant.wixsite.com/blog/single-post/2016/04/30/List-of-Mineral-Sunscreens-with-Zinc-Titanium-Oxide2) Japanese Sunscreen Recommendations http://loveneedwant.wixsite.com/blog/single-post/2016/09/21/Japanese-Sunscreen-SPF50-PA-Recommendations3) Current sunscreen wardrobe including links to reviews/swatches: http://loveneedwant.wixsite.com/blog/single-post/2016/09/30/Sunscreen-Wardrobe-UpdatedThere’s a method to applying foundation / bb cream over white cast mineral sunscreen.Dr Sam Buting, a UK based dermatologist trained in Cambridge and London shared it. Click here for more info. In short, I use one of those sponges eg beauty blenders the good doctor recommends.I did not burn with Invisible Zinc 27% Zinc Oxide
It was PERFECT! YAY *victory dance* I was not out in the sun much, will test and report back. The sun here in Australia is truly horrid.And yes, unfortunately, Invisible Zinc gives me a white cast too. I am MAC NC15. All the high mineral ones and apparently Tinosorb will give you a white cast. You can purchase tinted ones, Invisible Zinc makes them too, but I find it difficult to get a right shade, especially the western ones usually make it too dark for my skin tone. I was keen to get Andalou 20% Zinc Oxide BB or CC cream but the reviews are that it is too dark. Instead, i will purchase the CC cream made by IT Cosmetics, which makes a shade close to my skin.Thank you for sharing ratzillacosme blog. I used it quite a lot. I am familar with Biore’s sunscreen, i fear it will not protect me adequately this summer. I intend to give the Japanese sunscreen a go in Autumn and Winter… something dual purpose… whiten the pigmentation and protect at the same time. For summer coming up, it’s serious white cast sunscreens only, I can’t take the chance.Generally, with Asian sunscreens, I find that they DO NOT LIST the % of Zinc/Titanium. Korean sunscreen under my watch list is: Dr Estee & Innisfree Waterproof sunscreen. Both SPF50+For the Japanese sunscreens, you could try Curel, it is recommended by many dermatologists, pure mineral and good for sensitive skin types.My next sunscreen wish list is Total Block SPF65. It is a mix of physical and chemical sunscreen. Total of 5 active ingredients. More info here.
Have you seen this BASF patented Zinc Oxide ingredient?
The Biore UV Aqua SPF50 you mentioned contains a couple of ingredients I don’t want to use, like:– Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate– Ethanol– Orange fruit extract– Grapefruit fruit extract– Lemon fruit extract– PerfumeSo sorry, but that’s not a sunscreen I’m looking for, but thanks for you suggestion.Are physical sunscreens safe? Well, they have been tested for safety and are approved, so I believe the conclusion of those reports, yes they are safe. However not in spray form, so I wouldn’t choose spray sunscreens. Also sunscreens in spray form have very thin runny textures, which makes it almost impossible to apply 2 mg/cm2. That they are safe doesn’t say anything about their efficiency, filters like Tinosorb M and Uvinal A plus are far more effective at blocking UVA radiation. And with physical filters it is more likely that you rub the product off.@Peter Thanks for sharing. You are right, it is IMPOSSIBLE to get 2mg/cm2! I do think that spray sunscreens are a quick “lazy” way out.
Will look into Tinosorb M and Uvinal A plus, I’ve added some sunscreens with the chemical mix into my wish list.And yes, good point about physical filters losing efficacy when they are rubbed off. Dr Todorov mentioned that on his website too. @Peter Do you think getting a more “water resistant” or “sport” version is better for physical sunscreen to get around this “issue”? I rated my Moogoo 24+% ZInc oxide 3/5 because it rubs off easily.Another question is if SPF50+ is made up of only Zinc oxide, that means the Zinc Oxide has been micronised. Is it better to use a non nano SPF30+ Zinc oxide sunscreen instead of SPF50+ Zinx oxide for better UVA coverage? I still don’t know how to look at % of active for good broad spectrum coverage. esp without PPD / PA UVA ratings.@escherichia I’m have never been fond of Biore’s sunscreen. I did recommend you on another thread:
Kao Curel UV Lotion SPF50 PA+++ made with pure mineral sunscreen
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Mix of Zinc Oxide of Titanium Dioxide, no chemical sunscreen filters.
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Includes ceramides, good for dry skin.
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No alcohol but contains silicones.
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Japan Dermatologist’s top recommended brand as it suits sensitive skin
An oldie but a goodie.
The brains talk about different forms of sunscreen and why we need to apply our sunscreen x mins prior to going out in the sun.Difficult to say, a more water resistant product will stick better to skin, but could also cause more skin problems. An spf 50 may also cause more skin problems than an SPF30, simply because much more sunscreen actives are neccessary while the protection only increases from 93% to 97%.
Personally I want a product to have at least SPF30, so SPF50 is fine. What I don’t like is a product that’s very difficult to wash off, most of the times it results in acne, red bumps or other skin problems. And inflammation is also very bad for your skin. I would definitely prefer a non-nano spf30 over a nano SPF50, if it was 100% certain the product didn’t contain any particles smaller than 100nm. But in general non-nano isn’t always 100% non-nano. If a physical sunscreen isn’t extremely white certainly they did micronize the particles at least.
Looking at the percentage of a sun filter doesn’t tell you much about the UVA-protection. There are many additives (like aluminum hydroxide) than will boost the spf.The only reliable information is the term “broad spectrum” or the in-vivo UVA rating, like Bioderma uses. I’ve seen products with only Tinosorb that had extremely high uva/spf ratios of 0.85.
@Peter Good point about high sunscreen = high risk. Knowing how sunscreen works.
I see your point about SPF30 > SPF50 because of the size of Zinc oxide. It’s baffles me how Invisible Zinc is able to get SPF50 without nanosizing their particles. Perhaps it is like you say“A sunscreen may be considered non-nano if more than 50% of the particles are larger than 100nm. So theoretically still 49% could be in the nano-range?”It baffles me how only 1 company in Australia is able to get SPF50+ (TGA certifification) with pure Zinc Oxide, no other active ingredient. As a therapeutic sunscreen, they do not have to disclose their ingredients (like medicine) As a DIYer i know it takes a lot of zinc oxide to make SPF30, let alone SPF50+ (usually SPF60 equivalent in Australia).From experience the SPF50+ 27% Zinc oxide gives very good protection! In all fairness, using the 27% Zinc oxide left me very white. So it can’t be nanosized. It is not as the name suggest Invisible Zinc either but i was well protected. In comparison to using chemical + physical filters SPF50, i felt the heat on my face, all day. It was horrible. It resulted in sunburns… and i was not even out in the sun for very long.The Japanese sunscreens have very good sweat/sebum/water resistant formulaes! Something my Moogoo isn’t very good at. I’m nearly at the end of the bottle, i won’t repurchase it as when it rubs off, i am not protected. For us girls, we use cleansing oil to remove makeup, it melts all any stubborn sunscreen, it’s not an issue. Without the right cleanser, you’ll have a lot of difficulty removing it! Micellar water do not work. I prefer a sunscreen that protects and stay on…the “toughter to clean” problem i have dealt with and i rather overcome that issue than the other problem of the sunscreen not staying on. (I’ve evaluated this sunscreen property in my review of Mogoo)The other issue is no one really applies 2mg per cm2. So in reality only 1/3 or 1/4 of the SPF so the coverage is much much lesser than we think. so SPF50 becomes SPF17 or SPF12 only!I totally agree SPF≠PPD Absolutely no correlation at all! Which is why i am reluctant to use high SPF Titanium Dioxide as i am concerned about UVA coverage… UVA is the major cause of wrinkles too. Yes, the same here in Australia, you can only tell with “Broad spectrum”, the regulations here does not allow any advertising of PPD (even if the sunscreen has achieved the certification overseas)From experience, too i am sticking to physical only sunscreen for spring/summer (Sep-Feb). I do not feel the heat on my face when i use pure physical sunscreen, whereas where i use a physical + chemical mix, my face is “cooked” and still warm after washing it off when i get home.@Peter What are the other factors to consider when evaluating a sunscreen? Have you tried Fallene’s sunscreen Total Block or Cotz? I just got SPF40 Face tinted sunscreen sample from my Coolibar purchase from USA. It is a pure mineral sunscreen.
oh also got the “Australian” Blue Lizard from Coolibar. Blue Lizard is physical + chemical sunscreen SPF30+ containing Octinoxate 7.5% + Octocrylene 2% + Oxybenzone 3% + Zinc Oxide 6%.Cotz is pure mineral, active ingredients are: 3.8% Zinc oxide + 8% Titanium Dioxide.@ preciousia – Blue Lizard is made to Australian standards, which are more stringent than the US standards, thus the name. Or that is my understanding of the reason for the name. What I do know for sure is the dermatologists here love it.
I use cleansing oils as well, when a sunscreen is very water resistant. But still it is more likely to get skin problems, with a very water resistant sunscreen. Dermatologist Zoe Draelos thinks some ingredients will seal the hair follicles leading to irritation of the hair follicle and eventually causing acne.What I find important in a suncreen: it needs to have a pleasant texture (not too sticky, white, oily or drying), preferably it has the first 8 chemical sunscreens or physical filters, it doesn’t contain fragrances, alcohol, citrus extracts, lavender, rosemary, oxybenzone, menthol, methylchloroisothiazolione, witch hazel, propylene glycol and it needs to have some anti-oxidants. I like airless packaging if the products contains antioxidants, and I don’t use jar packaging. Because I live in Europe I can’t try the products you mentioned. What I like are products like Avene, Uriage, Derma Sollotion and Uncover Skincare.Question, other than Tinosorb which is a hybrid… Do ALL chemical sunscreens absorb UV and convert it into heat?
This is a major consideration.
Another issue with sunscreens I noted, sometimes I need a gentle eye makeup remover to remove sunscreen properly ESP for The Eye area, the minerals get caught up in the corners folds of The Eye. In addition to cleansing oil.
I believe in Japan, they have indoor and outdoor sunscreens. Similarly I will use sunscreens to that effect. If I am staying indoors, there is no need for that “water proofing” however if I am staying outdoors, so help me God… Give me a budge proof sunscreen.
I recently got some blocked pores, I have not added anything new to the routine, perhaps the cleanser may be too mild. It is imperative we cleanse properly if we use these water resistant sunscreen!
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