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@Lindygirl1960 it has 6% zinc, which is very good, and the mix of chemical sunscreen if able to boost the coverage without compromising the user friendliness.
Depending of which part of USA you are. Some places are very hot & sunny like a Dessert… Is it Arizona?
I shall try the “Australian” Blue Lizard sunscreen & report back
Also got Uriage on the way, I will look into the other Brands you mentioned too Peter. Like I said, if you don’t buying buying over the Internet, you can buy anything fr anywhere! Borderless shopping
What do you think of this sunscreen?
Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide 200mg/g, Octocrylene 20mg/g, Bemotrizinol 30mg/g, Diethylamino Hydroxybenzoyl Hexyl Benzoate 40mg/g.- SPF 50+ sunscreen combined with ingredients that moisturize, smooth and soften the appearance of scars and other skin imperfections.
- 20% Zinc rich formula provides SPF 50+ protection
- Natural tint to help conceal skin imperfections and scars
- Paraben and fragrance free
- Ideal for post procedure application
- Helps protect sensitive and traumatised skin from sun damage
- Combination of protection and skin renewal
- 4 hours water resistant
- 5 effective ingredients specially chosen for their anti-inflammatory and skin repairing properties
1. Vitamin B3 to aid in skin elasticity
2. Pro-vitamin B5 to improve skin’s hydration and reduce inflamation
3. Allantoin to help improve the skin’s barrier function
4. Aloe Vera to moisturise as well as help reduce irritation
5. Vitamin E to help smooth scar tissue
Made in Australia.
https://www.cancercouncilshop.org.au/sunscreen/sunscreen-professional-50plus
@Peter What do you think of Octocrylene?
You have ranked it #20 of your list-
Photodegradation: None Hormonal activity: ? absorption: Yes free radicals: Yes photoallergenic: Yes
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EWG Hazard Rating: 3
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Allergies: Relatively high rates of skin allergy
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Reference: Krause 2012, Bryden 2006, Hayden 2005
by the way for “Therapeutic Sunscreens”, Australia’s TGA approved 30 sunscreen ingredients.
The other types of sunscreen are called “cosmetic sunscreen”, they are regulatd by NICNAS, the regulations are not as strict and they are mainly for products like moisturisers with SPF where sunscreen is not the main functions.The difference is that therapeutic sunscreens have AUST L numbers printed on the product (like medicine). Also regulated are the claims made by therapeutic sunscreens vs cosmetic sunscreens.
USA FDA approved 17 Sunscreen ingredients:@Peter: Are all the top 8 ingredients you mentioned approved in Europe?More Beauty Brains posts on sunscreen:
there’s probably more… do update if you know of any morePreciousia,
I’ve swatched ALL the Andalou 20% Zinc Oxide BB or CC cream on my hand. The untinted clarifying BB (really just sunscreen to me though) is really too white for me but I’m NC25, so it might do for you since you are NC15. It feels pretty moisturizing too. All the other tinted BB creams are too dark/orangey for me (except the 1000 roses one in sheer nude color IIRC) so you better not get it. You might look like a pumpkin. ;pPeter, have you tried looking at Cyberderm?
They seem to have good reviews (albeit slightly pricey).Well chemical sunscreens convert the UV-radition enery in motion or in other words IR-radiation. But even nano physical sunscreens mainly absorb uv-radiation. But for people with pigmentation problems all studies show any sunscreen helps, even the ones with the oxybenzone or OMC. Applying sufficient sunscreen and of course staying out of the sun is really enough. I would rather look at some ingredients know to reduce pigmentation like Niacinamide, Vitamin C, Licorice Extract, Glabradin, Mulberry etc. Also using exfoliants with Glycolic Acid should help. More potent options are Retinoic Acid, Azelic Acid and Hydroquinone.The listed ingredients of the Cancer Council Professional Sunscreen SPF50, looks perfectly okay to me, although they are only the actives not the complete ingredient list. Octocrylene, its a difficult one. It’s a very stable ingredient, that improves stability of other ingredients and boosts spf. On the other hand it can be absorbed into the skin, high rates of allergy and it can generate free radicals, but free radical formation is a problem with many sunscreen ingredients. Not applying a sunscreen will cause much more free radical formation however. My ranking isn’t that exact that sunscreen 19 is really better than sunscreen 20, but I would consider them okay. But I would rather have zinc oxide or the other 8 sunscreen ingredients. The main thing is to avoid ingredients like Benzyl Salicylate, Meradimate, 3-benzylidene camphor, Enzacamene, OCM, Padimate O and Benzophenone-3. Indeed the first 8 are allowed in Europe, only Uninal A Plus and Uvasorb HEB are not allowed in Australia. A product manufactured in the Netherlands Uncover Skincare Suncare SPF30 for example, contains only Tinosorb S and Tinosorb M. Derma Sollotion SPF30 only Uvinal A Plus, Uvasorb HEB and Uvinul T150. You’re best bet to get sunscreens with these kind of sunscreen actives are the products formulated in France. Some large companies like Uriage, Avene and Loreal are formulating oke products. L’oreal products may contain the Mexoryl sunscreens, however they also contain many irritating ingredients and sunscreen actives like homosalate and avobenzone, so not 100% perfect yet.@escherichia nah i won’t use Andalou as BB CC cream as SUNSCREEN. thanks for confirming. I did read the reviews that it is too dark… so i’ll go for the Korean ones or IT Cosmetics. Shame… my italian friend in Canada said she really likes the Andalou one.
Derm drilled into me pretty much… use a dedicated sunscreen. In Australia, i look out for AUSTL numbers so i know they have gone thru’ the rigorous testing and are dedicated sunscreens.hmmm. never heard of Cyberderm before.Preciousia,
I came across Cyberderm from beauty editor.ca or something like that. Saying how the whipped texture (can’t imagine it though) is great and has minimal white cast. It comes in a pump bottle so great for germaphobes but it’s pretty pricey IMHO.I actually think the Andalou’s BB creams have great textures. But prob too dark for you or anyone below NC20.And also the Andalou products contain citrus and sage extracts, many plant extracts are not a great combination with sunlight. Especially citrus extracts have been shown to increase pigmentation of skin. The Cyberderm Simply Zinc Sun Whip SPF30 looks very good looking at the ingredients, but I guess it will be very white again.. Have you tried the Paula’s Choice Mineral sunscreens? Although most people find them invisible on skin, I must say they look extremely white on my face. The only thing that works is applying the Skin Recovery SPF30 and than another layer of the Resist Super-light SPF30 (which is tinted).
22% Zinc Oxide, Aqua, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Glyceryl Isostearate, Polyhydroxystearic Acid, Cetearyl Olivate, Sorbitan Olivate, Trimethylene Glycol, Methylcellulose, Tetrapeptide-21, Caprylhydroxamic Acid, Caprylyl Glycol, Glycerin, Phenoxyethanol, Xanthan Gum.@Peter thanks for looking thru’ the cancer council ingredients. As a TGA approved sunscreen, they do not have to disclose the full ingredient list. Some do, but most don’t.
sometimes as a consumer, the only way to find out the ingredients is only after buying a product (and seeing it in the smallest font possible on a box/paper which you’ll throw away).The Cancer Council protected me well enough during winter but now in spring, i got burnt 2x using this sunscreen when i went out during the peak hour. Each time i wore a wide brim hat/sunglasses. My pigmentation darkened as a result. The sunscreen expires in March next year. why did i get burnt? I applied thick layers as well. At least 1/4 tspIt’s a sign how photo sensitive Tretinoin is making my skin, will hit pause for summer.however when i use the pure mineral sunscreen.. no heat. no burn.Check out this review of Western vs Asian sunscreens. http://www.skinacea.com/products/sunscreens.html#.V-ZiVaJ95QKYes, you are right Peter, it seems the French are ahead of their peers in the sunscreen game, also skincare in general! Any good Netherlands brand worthy of a mention? Is La Roche Posay any good? I used them for several years before switching to my derms’ stuff.Peter, you’ve inspired this post:Hi Peter,
Don’t know if you were addressing that question to me but…I haven’t tried the Cyberderm yet (alr. spent a bomb on sunscreens) but someone on reddit noted that s/he was NC45 and had no problems with it. That was why I’d taken a mental note of Cyberderm sunscreens.I am eager to try PC’s sunscreens though. But her products are also pricey. Sigh. I am thinking of trying Babo Botanicals at preciousia’s rec. But it’s low in physical filters so you prob won’t like that.@escherichia would you like me to send you a 2 sachets of 5ml Babo Botanicals sample?
for Paula Choice, you can get their samples.
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