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Well I would not recommend Diazolidinyl Urea and Lemon extract.About the Invisible Zinc tinted sunscreen:Some studies show cyclomethicone, contains Cyclotetrasiloxane (search for D4) that has endocrine disrupting properties (see: http://www.hormones.gr/8548/article/sun-lotion-chemicals-as-endocrine-disruptors%E2%80%A6.html). But well I wouldn’t worry about that, many products contain cyclomethicones, and they are considered safe, it looks very good.
@Peter. What about the Invisible Zinc tinted sunscreen, what do you think of that? They used Phenoxyethanol instead for the preservative.
ingredients here: http://cosdna.com/eng/cosmetic_cc0730476.htmlInvisible Zinc’s US-based manufacturer Valeant bought Invisible Zinc from its Australian founder Ganehill Pty Ltd in April, in April 2011.“Under the heading Micronised (Not Nano) Sunscreens, the website explains that Invisible Zinc uses zinc oxide particles which are up to 50 times larger than the size of typical nanoparticles in some other sunscreens.” SourceThere was no mention whether it is coated.The dermatologist bottles have interesting packaging. The products I mentioned will open due to the pressure of the product inside when you pump. The Avene product is packaged in a tube, but you need to press the product and then it will open sligthly, you can’t get any air in, so in the end the tube is completely vacuum.@Peter My dermatologist sunscreen come in an airless tube. i know what you are talking about
Have you heard of this?
Optisol™ OTP1 by Croda?INCITitanium Dioxide (and) Manganese OxideChemical typeMetal oxide dispersions- Inorganic UV absorber
Optisol™ is a novel inorganic sunscreen incorporating manganese ions into the structural lattice of titanium dioxide, thereby imparting key functional benefits unparalleled by any standard or coated material commercially available. It delivers broad spectrum UVA and UVB protection with zero skin whitening. Generating up to 95% less free radicals than other inorganic absorbers and serving as an effective free radical scavenger, Optisol™ sunscreens deliver advanced UV protection.Not only are Optisol™ sunscreens capable of significantly enhancing the photo-stability of formulations containing organic UV absorbers, they also improve the UV efficacy of inorganic systems to provide a truly multi-faceted approach to UV protection. Cosmetically, this product is recommended for use in sun care, skin care and colour cosmetics.This looks like another physical filter.here’s another link to sunscreens i have yet to go thru’ perhaps you guys can find some “gold” in there?
I bought the Invisible Zinc light tinted SPF30+
Peter said the ingredients are good. so i got it before the last day of the sale, maybe hubby can use it too for our summer holidays, no white cast, not yucky and thick… quite “man” friendly. he is about a shade darker than me so this would be perfect for him.Invisible Zinc Tinted Daywear, paid Aud$20.69 RRP$32.now i got 3 different Invisible Zinc sunscreens, face, body and tinted
We need the protection for this summer when we will be out i the peak hours of the day. Getting him a hat too.ps: i emailed Invisible Zinc to ask them about the size of the zinc oxide and if they are coated. Also have asked them for the full ingredient list. Will update when they reply.Wow, it comes in tinted versions too! And 2 different tints? I like the lighter tint. The darker one may be good for men.
@escherichia yes the tinted versions are very cosmetically elegant. i will try on my face and test
the other day when i tested on my hand… it was obviously too dark.. after i walked home and tried to take a photo.. it seems to have settle in and i can’t tell the difference in shades.My Invisible Zinc collection nowmy face is fairer than my hand though… so… will feedback. will test on hubby face too… he’s kinda pale like korean… but still darker than me.i got a question regarding PAO
i only only recently learnt about PAO. Period after opening? My derm’s sunscreen had been used infrequently… and it has been opened longer than 6 months. The PAO is 6 months more infoit contains pure minerals sunscreen and i have only kept it in a cool dark cupboard.Any idea if it is ok to use. i forget how long i had it for. probably a year! Is it ok to use?Ingredients:-
(Active: Titanium Dioxide 13.00%) Water, Polyglyceryl-4 Isostearate, Cetyl PEG/PPG 10/1 Dimethicone, Hexyl Laurate, Aluminum Hydroxide, Stearic Acid, Cyclomethicone, Isononyl Isononanoate, Cetyl Dimethicone, PEG-150/Decyl Alcohol SMDI Copolymer, Methyl Glucose Sesquistearate, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Butylparaben, Propylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Sodium Chloride, Red #6, Iron Oxides, Yellow #10.
thanks! Learning some beauty stuff only in the last 12 months. Lots i don’t know still.Want to share 3 Aussie sunscreens. Will find the full ingredient list if available.
All prices in AUD.
1) UV Naturals SPF30+ (they make a range including one for the lips)- UV Natural BABY SPF 30+ Sunscreen
- broad spectrum
- 2 hours water resistant
- For the most precious family members, UV Natural BABY is perfectly formulated to protect your baby’s soft and sensitive skin against sunburn.
- A blend of calming and soothing oils and extracts act as anti-oxidants to moisturise and hydrate the skin.
- · zinc oxide 24.8%
- · zinc stearate
- · grape seed oil
- · macadamia oil
- · natural vitamin E
- · green tea extract
- · grape seed extract
- · colloidal silica
- · iron oxide
Product claims:
The products are carefully formulated using naturally derived ingredients and zinc oxide to protect from the sun’s harmful UVA and UVB rays.Light and pure, UVnatural is formulated to also moisturise and soften the skin. UVnatural products are Fragrance and Preservative free.Price: 50g $15.55 150g $34.10
2) OCosmedics MINERAL PRO SPF 30+Product info:Mineral Pro SPF 30+ is a daily moisturiser that provides broad spectrum UVA & UVB protection. This lightweight fast absorbing formula dries to a clear finish. It also contains antioxidant resveratrol a skin conditioning peptide and a delicious vanilla fragrance. The broad spectrum SPF 30+ protection may assist to prevent solar keratoses and sunspots and reduce the risk of some skin cancers.20% zincPrice: $47 for 75g
3) SunSense Sensitive Invisible SPF 50+Made by local Ego Pharmaceuticals15% Zinc Oxide. Contains Niacinamide (Physical only, no chemical filters)The company advised :
“zinc oxide, is in nano particulate size. The particles are coated and are in the rutile (non reactive) form.SunSense Sensitive Invisible provides broad spectrum SPF 50+ protection and has 4 hours water resistance. It is a cosmetically elegant preparation, being non-greasy or sticky, non-shiny, and absorbing well into the skin.”Price: 75g RRP$10.95 Sale $7.69 200g $18.95 Sale $12.99Regarding SunSense Sensitive Invisible SPF 50+The company replied this in relation to my request for ingredients:“The SunSense Sensitive Invisible is a therapeutic product, listed on the ARTG (Australian Register of Therapeutic Goods). We only list the active and preservative ingredients on the product label, while all other ingredients remain proprietary information. If, however, you have a known sensitivity to any particular ingredient, I would be happy to confirm whether or not it is in this product.”i asked about mineral oil/petroleum based equivalent:They replied “The SunSense Sensitive Invisible does contain a low percentage of light liquid paraffin, a mineral oil”@Peter What do you think low percentage means?Low percentage can mean anything. If you would be allergic to the specific ingredient, it means you can’t use the product.
In general if a company doesn’t have an ingredient list, I don’t even bother to have a look at it. It even frustrates me companies are allowed to list actives, and then just mention the other ingredients in alphabetical order. Also the fact that actives lower than 1% may be listed in random order, makes reading ingredientlists difficult. Take for example some products from paulas choice, some ingredients listed high up on the ingredient list, sometimes at the 3th or 4th place, are never added above 0.01 to 0.2%. This means all ingredients after that must be lower than 1%. In general I think most actives are added at extremely low concentrations at paulas choice, which is disappointing considering she does use very good well researched mixtures af actives.
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