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@Peter I have no allergies to mineral oil, i was merely concerned about what Dr Lens said in in the video
- tip: fastforward to 15:13 for the bit about mineral oil.
I agree with you regarding the listing of ingredients in random order.This “white washing” sometimes is quite misleading.listing ingredients of higher perceived value higher up the list whereas listing ingredients like preservatives lower down the list … sneakyI refer to a Korea vs USA way of listing ingredients. See thisQuestion regarding PAOMy derm’s sunscreen had been used infrequently… and i only learnt about PAO recently. The PAO is 6 months. i opened it on 7/2/2016it contains pure minerals sunscreen and i have only kept it in a cool dark cupboard.Any idea if it is ok to use. i forget how long i had it for. probably a year! Is it ok to use?(Active: 16% Zinc Oxide + 4% Titanium Dioxide) Water, Polyglyceryl-4 Isostearate, Cetyl PEG/PPG 10/1 Dimethicone, Hexyl Laurate, Aluminum Hydroxide, Stearic Acid, Cyclomethicone, Isononyl Isononanoate, Cetyl Dimethicone, PEG-150/Decyl Alcohol SMDI Copolymer, Methyl Glucose Sesquistearate, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Butylparaben, Propylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Sodium Chloride, Red #6, Iron Oxides, Yellow #10.
thank you!Sharing Swatch of Invisible Zinc SPF50+ for Face+Body to compare the white cast.
click here for swatchnot much white cast, and not too oily.@Peter Could you explain what your criteria photoallergenic mean?
Your skin can show an allergic reaction under influence of sunlight in combination with external substances like sunscreen actives, from all allergic testings it appears some uv filters give more problems than others (benzophenone-3 is a common one). Maybe you can search the following terms on google: PACD, photoallergic reaction, contact allergy, sunscreen. Many articles will explain what you want to know.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22283432
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25384223
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23340396
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/730096@ preciousia – I actually live on the East Coast of the US. Our climate is very moderate here, not terribly hot in the summer and not terribly cold in the winter. We have traveled to some very hot and humid climates and I found the Blue Lizard to be just as good a product in those situations as it is here.
@Peter BRAVO! dank jesome reading for me to do@lindygirl1960 you make me very curious to try Blue Lizard I am desperately trying to use up my Moogoo sunscreen first.ps: is Cotz popular where you are?@ Peter
Could you advise if this is a good document to use to see what are the sunscreen ingredients approved in Europe?refer to Annexe VIThank you for your suggestions about sunscreen products, such as uncover and derma. However, it seems it is unaccessible to these European products for American people. Do you have any recommendation sunscreen that could be easily accessible for American?As far as I can see the data in the article is complete. You may have noticed that Zinc Oxide is not allowed as UV-filter, just like some older filters like PABA and Cinoxate.Well, the products from Paula’s Choice are not bad.And also the following products are oke I think:– Coola Matte Tint SPF30– Neostrata Sheer Physical Protection SPF50– MD solar science Mineral Creme SPF30– DermaQuest Sheerzinc SPF30But if you have INCI-lists I can check them for you.@Peter Thank you for the confirmation.
i didn’t notice that Zinc Oxide is not allowed *shocked*@Peter Invisible Zinc has replied me with their ingredients. I have updated it here
what do you think of it?Invisible Zinc Face + Body Sunscreen SPF50Zinc oxide, 1,2-Hexanediol, Beeswax – white, Butyloctyl salicylate, C12-15 alkyl benzoate, Caprylyl glycol, Caprylyl methicone, Cetyl phosphate, Dicaprylyl carbonate, Dimethicone/methicone copolymer, Dimethicone 350, Disodium edetate, Dow Corning 5200 Formulation Aid (PI), Ethylhexyl methoxycrylene, Glycerol, Magnesium sulphate, PEG-30 dipolyhydroxystearate, Phenoxyethanol, Propylene carbonate, Silica – colloidal anhydrous, Stearalkonium hectorite, Sunspheres LCG Polymer (PI), Triacontanyl PVP, Water – purified, ZinClear-IM_50AB (PI)
Invisible Zinc Tinted Daywear SPF30+Zinc oxide, Cyclomethicone, Dow Corning 5200 Formulation Aid (PI), Phenyl trimethicone, Sodium chloride, Sunspheres LCG Polymer (PI), Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Water – purified, ZinClear-IM_50AB (PI) , Exasperse Black R3619 , Exasperse Brown R3622 , Exasperse Russet R3236 , Exasperse Tan R3620, Exasperse Yellow R3235
Invisible Zinc 4 HR Water Resistant SPF50+Zinc oxide, ZinClear-IM_50AB , 1,2-Hexanediol, Beeswax , Butyloctyl salicylate, C12-15 alkyl benzoate, Caprylyl glycol, Caprylyl methicone, Cetyl phosphate, Dicaprylyl carbonate, Dimethicone/methicone copolymer, Dimethicone, Disodium edetate, Dow Corning 5200 Formulation Aid , Ethylhexyl methoxycrylene, Glycerol, Magnesium sulfate, PEG-30 dipolyhydroxystearate, Phenoxyethanol, Propylene carbonate, Silica – colloidal anhydrous, Stearalkonium hectorite, Sunspheres LCG Polymer , Triacontanyl PVP, Water – purified.Invisible Zinc Facial Moisturiser SPF30Zinc oxide, 1,3-Butylene glycol, C12-15 alkyl benzoate, Cetearyl glucoside, Cetostearyl alcohol, Citric acid – anhydrous, Citrus limon, Cyclomethicone, Diazolidinylurea, Disodium edetate, Fumaria officinalis, Fumaric acid, Glycerol, Isostearyl neopentanoate, Methyl glucose sesquistearate, PEG-20 methyl glucose sesquistearate, Phenoxyethanol, Water – purified, Xanthin gumThis is what they said about he moisturiser containing lemon“According to our medical team, it is unlikely that citrous limon will cause photosensitivity, firstly due to the minute amount that is in the formulation and secondly due to the fact that this product is a sunscreen, so hypothetically speaking, if citrous limon was photosensitising, the effect would be attenuated by the sunscreen.”First of all that’s complete nonsense what they say about the lemon extract, if it’s photosensitizing (which it is) it will cause problems under influence of UV-light.
Well I don’t know what the following ingredients are: Exasperse Black R3619 , Exasperse Brown R3622 , Exasperse Russet R3236 , Exasperse Tan R3620, Exasperse Yellow R3235, so I can’t say much about that.The other ingredients seem to be okay, although Diazolidinyl Urea isn’t a very good preservative.@Peter yup… hogwash indeed! Citrus ingredients even at Low % will affect photo sensitivity
Koreans use lots of weird ingredients we are unfamiliar with in the Western world!
Preservatives are necessary… I don’t know much about them tbh. Personally I use phenoxyethanol in my DIY as I noticed them used in my derm’s products. Not for the purist but easier to formulate with than the “natural” preservatives
Looks like only the moisturiser has Urea… so the other 3 are ok
I am not sure how I feel about their Zinc Oxide that isn’t coated tho the Australia TGA says it is safe
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