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    The saddest thing is, rozy, the lemon juice trick isn’t going to go away because it’s so “cheap”, just like duct tape for warts. :(

    #93574
    rozyisback
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    I read on futurederm that duct tape actually works but they forgot to consider that duct tape was never meant to be applied to skin. I wouldn’t use it. I agree it will probably never go away because in this culture “natural”=good and “chemicals”=bad. A very naive view. Every time I disliked and reported a lemon on face video another one popped up in suggestions. It is going to end up with people’s doctors telling them its bad and hopefully they listen.

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    Natalie Bell on Futurederm misinterpreted one study with the duct tape vs. mole skin trial. It actually showed it was no better than the placebo (mole skin). I’ve noticed that she tends to conflate “not statistically significant” with “treatments have the same effect”. I should look at the other studies.

    The natural = good/chemicals = bad notion bothers me too. It’ll eventually cause damage to the point where someone has to see a doctor/dermatologist. It also ticks me off that people are doing chemical peels like TCA at home! Even TCA CROSS! They don’t understand that it takes years and practice to effectively do those peels and minimize complications, not to mention there is a very important “prep” time involved!
    Grrrrr….

    #93617
    rozyisback
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    Yeah I find Natalie is too faithful in natural extracts. Thank you for telling me what the study really said, I didnt know just took her word for it. I think it was about warts though. I also didn’t know buying the online peels is bad but I do know my amazing derm does them, you have to pay but yeah I would trust her more than me! Yes they do end up having to see a doctor and making the problem worse. Reminds me if you ever read the blog The Skeptical OB she tells people of how dangerous home birth is compared to at the hospital with an OB and is so hated for it.

    #93623

    Natalie Bell also misinterpreted the second study–that too was negative. Well, technically underpowered (not enough patients) and negative. I read the mole skin study again and that was underpowered, too. The one comparing cryotherapy was also underpowered.

    AKA, Bell’s inaccurately concluded that duct tape works. She should’ve looked a little closer at the data.

    If you look on Amazon and eBay, you’ll find vendors selling TCA anywhere from 5% to 100%! They’re doing the same with glycolic and lactic acid. It’s extremely dangerous, because you have no idea if it’s counterfeit, diluted, or expired. Some of them come with directions which are likely not accurate. Yet buyers do this to save a few hundred dollars.

    Perhaps even worse, if you look on some of the forums, contributors are advocating DIY peels with TCA! They’re getting even basic stuff wrong, like “frosting is bad” (no, it isn’t; at least, in experienced hands), confusing frosting with precipitate, and recommending strong peels for darker skin types! This is super basic stuff! I do hope to get a chemical peel one day, but I’d never do it at home!

    I did check out that blog just now, and whoa! I knew home birth was a problem but not that bad, to say the least!

    #93630
    rozyisback
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    Yeah homebirth is really dangerous and scary and the midwife situation in the states is really bad because they aren’t real medical professionals. There is even people who believe in unassisted childbirth despite that childbirth is more dangerous for humans than any other species and we need other humans there with us. Thank you again for the warning of the dangers of strong at home peels I never bought one bc I live in Canada and you pretty much can’t buy anything online here anyways. Shipping prices from the US are INSANE!

    #93639

    Hey, no problem!
    Shipping prices from Canada are high, too. Maybe our countries could reach an agreement on shipping? ;)

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