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Should you start your own NYR organic business?

Elizabeth asks…Hi! I’m new to this site, but was impressed by the thorough analysis done on other products.

My daughter is selling NYR Organic bodycare products and I was wondering if any here have tried it, and would be interested in hearing an analysis from the brains of the group! I’m not a hardcore organic person, but was impressed at how quickly a small 3rd degree burn healed when I used their lavender oil on it, and then I went to a “practice party” that my daughter did, I was able to check out a few more products. As a good mom would, I am scheduled to host a party, but I am more interested in the analysis of the product before I make any kind of investment in it.

Left Brain launches:

So sorry about the delay in answering, Liz, we are working hard on meeting our deadline for our new Beauty Brains book. But I thought I’d take time out to answer this one since enlightening people to the realities of multi-level marketing (e.g. Arbonne) is one of my favorite things to do.

So, your question is basically….Should you invest in NYR Organic?

NYR Organic products

I’ve never used NYR Organic products but you can learn a lot about a product by reviewing the ingredient list. It turns out that they use the same ingredients that everyone else uses. In the cosmetic industry, nearly everyone has access to the same ingredients and ingredient suppliers. Bigger companies will sometimes get exclusive deals, but it’s rare that anyone can gain an advantage by the source of their raw materials. NYR Organic is no different.

As a quick example, look at their Rose Body Cream

You can click the link for the full list but basically the formula is water, emulsifier (glyceryl stearate) and an oil phase (cetearyl alcohol, Lanolin alcohol, Shea butter, etc). It’s probably a fine formula as they no doubt work with some excellent cosmetic chemists. But this formula isn’t any better than something like Burt’s Bees body butter. And at $36 for 5.2 ounces, NYR Organic doesn’t even compare in value to Burt’s Bees product at $13 for 6.6 ounces.

Of course, even Burt’s isn’t even as good a value as something like Neutrogena Body Cream at $7.70 for 6 ounces.

But the point is, there is nothing about NYR Organic formulas that makes them superior to other, less expensive products you can buy. And if you find the natural / organic story compelling, then Burt’s Bees, JASON, or any of the other host of “natural / organic” products you can buy at regular stores will be a better value.

NYR Organic Sales System

I do not know any more about this company than what I’ve read on their website. However, from your description of hosting parties and “investing” in the products, it sounds very much like a system of distribution called Network Marketing or Multi-Level Marketing. In this system, they get “consultants” to buy products, sell them to their friends & family, and then try to get the “consultants” to convert their friends into consultants who will then give them a kickback on every sale.

The whole system is very much like a pyramid scheme in which no one (except the people who started the company) really makes any significant money. Of course, it’s not an illegal pyramid scheme because product is actually produced and sold.

Before you invest any money in this company or any other, be sure to read this information about Multi-level Marketing.

And if the guy at Skeptoid doesn’t make you think twice, read what the FTC has to say about Multilevel Marketing.

Beauty Brains Bottom line

Should you buy into the NYR Organic system and become a consultant? Ultimately, you have to decide this for yourself. But if the reasons are because the products are something special (they aren’t) or that you’ll make a lot of money (you won’t), then you’ll be best served by skipping this “opportunity”.

What do you think about multilevel marketing opportunities? Have you joined and made money? Leave a comment below and let the other Beauty Brains community members know.

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  • Crystal February 12, 2014, 11:45 pm

    Completely biased assessment of something you are unfamiliar with and analyzing solely on the basis that it is a “Pyramid scheme”. You already have your mind made up with your opinion.
    There is a significant difference between Burt’s Bee’s products vs a high quality organic product. Burt”s bee’s has been bought out by the Clorox Company and uses petroleum and chemical based products and is nothing organic about it.
    NYR Organics actually commit to superior quality and care about our environment and sustainability.

    I will agree that multilevel marketing does give skepticism but basing an opinion only on the fact they are multilevel marketing and so just like all of them is narrow minded.
    I hope the poster did her research and trusted her judgement and hope she was able to find a good quality product.

    • Patsee Anderson April 8, 2018, 10:49 pm

      I went to the Direct Sales National Registry, and NYR is registered as a Direct Sales Company and is absolutely not a MLM organization. If you want to know about the products, show them to an esthetician, they will let you know if the products are worth using….

      I found this blog rather insulting, when quoting information I did a little more research to discover there is a difference In MLM and DS. thought they may look similar.

      • Perry Romanowski April 16, 2018, 9:31 am

        MLMs require their “sales people” to put up money for the honor of selling the products. A proper direct sales company would hire sales people & pay them salaries. You can call it whatever you like but it is still an MLM.

  • HawaiiGirl February 17, 2014, 3:15 am

    Wow was this a biased review or what? Comparing organic products to chemical laden ones saying there’s no difference? WOW. I am not a NYR Organucs user, but I am a firm believer that products sold through network marketing are of a higher quality. Why? Because the products aren’t sent through a huge distribution chain. And why wouldn’t I want to support a family member with my purchase rather than a big box store that doesn’t give a rip? POS article.

    • Randy Schueller February 17, 2014, 4:12 pm

      @Hawaii Girl: I’m sorry but I don’t follow your logic. You say that “I am a firm believer that products sold through network marketing are of a higher quality. Why? Because the products aren’t sent through a huge distribution chain.”

      What does the distribution chain have to do with the quality of the product? I would look at the ability of a company to conduct proper research & development, claims support, and safety testing rather than try to correlate product quality with the size of their distribution chain.

      • Cscott October 16, 2014, 11:19 am

        NYorganics monitors & controls their distribution all the way down to the quality of soil their ingredients are grown in…. This is much different than main stream distributors who buy inferior ingredients & then outsource labor/distribution to 3rd world countries. Further more, I think the commentor is spot on to say there are many people who would rather pay a little more for ethically sourced quality ingredients being sold by a friend or family member

    • Gaby July 17, 2014, 12:05 am

      I completely agree!!!
      I surely hope the woman who posed the question did her own research and did not rely on this response!
      And as far as the marketing, I have sold for another big cosmetic/skin care company and I actually did very well for myself….so to say there is no money in it is ludacris as well….maybe it’s a judgement on the majority or a personal experience but I, for one, did indeed make many amd also received an amazing discount on products for myself ,all the while working for an amazing company….

    • Gail Johnson February 18, 2017, 1:31 pm

      well said x

  • wow March 16, 2014, 9:16 pm

    Wow. What a terribly 1 sided response. Both of the cheap products you recommended as substitutes for NYR products contain “Fragrance” (a term in the United States that could be 1 of 200 ingredients) that people commonly suffer allergies from.
    AND the Neutrogena cream you recommended over NYR products contain
    Petrolatum byproduct of petroleum, found in breast cancer biopsies.

    Perhaps you should do more more research on the ingredients used in cheap products vs. organic, natural products.

    • Randy Schueller March 18, 2014, 8:18 am

      @Wow: Petrolatum has been found in breast cancer biopsies? Can you please provide a link which substantiates your claim so we can investigate? Thanks.

      • Carol June 5, 2017, 6:39 am

        @Randy, after reading a few of your comments, I think you and I have many of the same thoughts on this subject.

  • Debralw March 17, 2014, 6:28 pm

    I am a NYR Organic dissatisfied consultant. Prices are high and the consultant discount barely covers taxes (London) and shipping. The products were mediocre at best and if you sign up under a gift certificate promise, know that it’s only good for 60 days and you have to jump thru hoops in order to cash it in. Company only cares about the $$$. NOT the satisfaction of customer or consultant!

    • Ian December 7, 2015, 3:02 pm

      I totally agree with you over the years i have seen so so many of these company’s spring up the 1st for me was in 1973/74 yes from the good old USA it was a cleaning fluid called swipe i went to a meeting talk about hype a friend of mine bought well hundreds of bottles to get the biggest discount yes pyramid selling it all starts in the USA and Canada and believe me i am now 64 yrs ive seen many many people burn their fingers “”!! the only winners are the 1st owners you will never win fact! They have people who will convince you! Its all a set up from Purfume /water softeners /air purifiers / cosmetics / the list is endless !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Debbie April 23, 2014, 10:02 am

    Hi…I’m sorry…but you have never used the product and don’t know anything about the company but can still have an opinion!? I signed up to be a consultant with NYR, because I really, truly believe in the company and I am sick to death of all the crap advertising that most beauty companies do, when what you are paying for is harmful chemicals, animal testing and high priced actors/actresses. NYR Organic lists all of their ingredients, something that is not necessary and most companies don’t do (for obvious reasons) How about not testing on animals? how about supporting many charities? How about being the first high street retailer to be Carbon Neutral? how about being part of Fair Trade and supporting local communities and families? How about everything being hand made and most products being produced in their ‘Eco factory’? How about no chemicals? How about not buying out to a bigger company that does test on animals and use chemicals?(Such as Body Shop and Burts Bees) How about supporting people that sell your products instead of paying astronomical amounts of money for advertising and rent? How about education? NYR Organic works with leading universities to study the effect that all of these chemicals/pesticides have on our health. We’ll stay with education…Peter Kindersley also partly funded and was the Executive producer of a documentary that is just out called ‘Unacceptable Levels’ …To educate people about the amounts of chemicals/pesticides/additives that they are taking into their body and the negative results this can have on your health (not to mention the environment, the continuing abuse of animals and the BIG Multi billion dollar profits for big business!!!)
    How about you guys start researching your stuff instead of writing absolute rubbish….seriously….I’m am astonished that you guys can write such dribble with a clean consciousness!!!

    • Randy Schueller April 23, 2014, 12:21 pm

      Thanks for your thoughts Debbie. I’m sorry we don’t see eye to eye on this. One more thing – if a company tell you that their products are “chemical free” they’re misleading you. There is no such thing.

      • Evan November 24, 2016, 9:06 pm

        Not true.

        • Randy Schueller November 25, 2016, 7:40 am

          Evan: Everything is composed of chemicals (even something like water is a chemical.) So it’s IMPOSSIBLE to make a “chemical free” product. A product may be free of synthetically produced chemicals but that’s another issue.

          If you can provide one example of a truly chemical free product I’d love to see it.

          • Christine Rezer January 7, 2017, 3:29 pm

            You kind of like being an intellectual bully. That I can tell you.

          • Randy Schueller January 8, 2017, 8:22 am

            I’m sorry you feel that way Christine. I was just asking Evan for proof of his assertion. I didn’t mean to come across a bullying. But I will say this, if someone makes an unsupported statement in these comments I will call them out on it.

          • Jennifer Jackson March 24, 2017, 4:56 pm

            Hi I’m the founder of a natural skincare company called Laila London and I rarely respond to posts like this, but I could not resist. We handcrafted 100% natural skincare and dental products without the use of water so all our products are free of chemicals and preservatives. To say it’s impossible to create a product that’s chemical free is absolutely ridiculous.

            Petroleum-based cosmetics and skin care products are found to contain cancer-causing chemical 1,4-dioxane. http://www.naturalnews.com/021717_toxic_chemicals_skin_care_products.html

            Jennifer Jackson
            Laila London

          • Randy Schueller March 27, 2017, 7:49 am

            Thanks Jennifer but clearly you don’t understand the terminology you’re using. EVERY ingredient in your each of your products is a chemical. Also, the industry has been aware of the dioxane problem for years and there are guidelines in place to ensure dioxane levels are controlled. If you have evidence that dioxane in personal care products today presents and actual threat to public health I’d love to see it.

          • Steve Herbert March 4, 2018, 4:38 pm

            Oxygen is a chemical free product.

          • Perry Romanowski March 12, 2018, 2:58 pm

            Only if you are using a different definition of the word “chemical”. There is no such thing as a chemical free product.

      • Carol June 5, 2017, 6:41 am

        @Randy, I agree. Everything in this world is made of the elements which are chemicals.

  • Bearfoot May 9, 2014, 8:32 pm

    If you are truly looking for 100% organic, no chemicals! beauty products you could actually eat…….Terressentials. You’re kidding yourself if you think these products are organic and free of chemicals. I’m not saying not to use them, just do your research. Rule of thumb is if you can’t pronounce the ingredients, they’re chemicals. Behenyl olivate, Octyldodecyl olivate, Glycerin, Glycine soja (Soya) oil*, Theobroma cacao (Cocoa) seed butter*, Cetearyl glucoside, Cetearyl olivate, Sorbitan olivate, Argania spinosa (Argan) kernel oil*, Vitis vinifera (Grape) seed oil*. Made with 74% organic ingredients. Sorry, 74% means the other 26% aren’t organic, so it can’t be truly organic.

    • Nikki June 13, 2014, 8:04 am

      Actually, if a company tells you their products are 100 percent organic then you are the one who is being mislead. Research the term. There are things that can’t be called organic. Organic is a term that only applies to ingredients that are farmed. Water is not organic. Salt, and other minerals found naturally in the earth are not organic. When a company gives you a percentage on each product of its organic content, that means it’s being honest and completely transparent about its contents rather than misleading their consumers with faulty claims.

    • Jeanne October 9, 2015, 10:30 am

      It just means they are not certified organic. Do your research before writing an article. How irresponsible.

    • holly October 29, 2015, 11:49 am

      They clearly state on their website all ingredients, and also say that their products are not 100% organic with an explanation of why they are not.

      That is their ingredient statement

      Bottom line: No one is going to agree fully on whether or not these products are the best, however to say that they are the same as the “competitors” listed above is simply uneducated.

      My reasons to become a consultant: I love that their bottles are biodegradable, I love that they provide a full list of ingredients (perfect for those with allergies) and I love that they care about being organic, cruelty free, fair trade, and support the farmers and growers where they get the ingredients for their products.

      There will always be pro’s and con’s to supporting any company. its all based on opinions.

  • Nikki May 24, 2014, 2:57 pm

    The statements in this review stating that there is no difference between NYR’s process is completely inaccurate. They are a certified organic company which means that even in the process of growing the items needed to make the products there are NO chemicals used including pesticides. Not only are the chemicals in pesticides harmful to the human body but they are also harming wildlife such as Bees, Butterflies and many more of natures beautiful creations. I truly hope the person who asked about the company did some further research to see that there is a HUGE difference in NYR Organic and products who have tons of chemicals in them.

  • Kimberly August 4, 2014, 1:25 pm

    They do not claim 100% organic, water is not organic, clay is not organic. They also do not claim to be free of chemicals… everything is a chemical. They do not use harmful chemicals, like ‘fragrance’, petroleum, or SLS to name a few of the nasty ones. The company is very ethical and focused on safety. The company as a whole is certified organic and the products are all individually given percents of how much organic ingredient is in them. They are completely transparent with what they put in their products, all listed directly on the website. Great product, ethical company and ground floor opportunity for someone lookig to start a business with a product they can stand by.

    • arooj March 15, 2015, 8:05 pm

      Wow, what a debate! I came across this review when researching NYR Organic, also because I contemplating whether or not I should work for them. On their webpage under ‘what’s in our products this is what they state:”When it comes to ingredients, we pride ourselves on our honesty, integrity and transparency. We make our products with the maximum organic, natural and wild ingredients, and carefully select other functional ingredients (detergents, emulsifiers, surfactants etc) with a view to safety, efficacy and biodegradability. Our entire range makes use of high quality organic plant-based ingredients, and we fully disclose our ingredient information with our customers, both online and, where space allows, on our packaging.” I agree with many views stated above, in that NYR organic have not and do not claim that they are 100% organic, they are honest in what they are saying. Simply put if one must cleanse, tone and moisturize, using products LESS harmful is better.

      • Susan Smith January 8, 2016, 11:04 pm

        NYR cannot claim 100% organic because some naturally occurring substances such as water & clay cannot be listed as “organic”. The great thing about NYR is they do not use any of the nasties like propylene glycol etc that are harmful and toxic. Once I washed with the Frankincense Refining Cleanser and applied the Frankincense Hydrating Creme my skin felt like it came alive. I was hooked.

      • Jennifer February 13, 2017, 3:07 pm

        Finally someone who gets the big picture! I make most of my own lotions and potions so that I know exactly what is in them, but any time I can use something that is not laden with toxicity, the better off I am!

  • Heather August 4, 2014, 3:18 pm

    Actually by definition a chemical is a group of elements that are bonded and inseparable. Water is a chemical substance. Most people when referring to “chemicals” are talking about synthetic substances that are not able to be naturally combined, i.e. clouds make rain so water is a chemical substance that is inseparable yet not synthetic. The words synthetic and chemical are often interchanged. Everything NYRO puts in to their products are naturally occurring substances and they operate based on the precautionary principle that is if an ingredient is believed to cause harm to people, the product is reformulated and the ingredient is removed from products.

    • Carol June 5, 2017, 6:46 am

      @Heather, well said

  • Aimee September 4, 2014, 6:25 pm

    I’m so offended by people who refer to MLM as being similar to a pyramid scheme. People don’t go broke working for MLM companies unless they buy too much that they can’t sell. And many of them don’t require their consultants to carry any stock at all. There are lots and lots of successful people out there making a lot of money from direct sales – myself included. The bottom line is, not everyone is business savvy. Not everyone can be trained to do things the way they need to to make their business a success. Not just anyone is cut out for direct sales. Period.

    As for your comments about NYR, I just today got my samples and tried a couple for the first time. I’m typically a Mary Kay user but I’ve also used Avon, Arbonne, Estee Lauder, etc. This felt good when I put it on so I Googled it to see what other people thought – then I came across this blog post, which you should be embarassed about. It’s not the least bit unbiased and while reading it, I was starting to wonder if you just have a beef or something with one of their consultants.

    Additionally, any company that’s been in business for 30 years must be doing something right. The skin care industry is saturated – there are tons of companies selling it but only the best of the best are still in business. 30 years in the cosmetics/skin care industry is still very young, but if their product was crap they would have been out of business a long time ago.

    So, for me, the jury is still out on NYR. I like what I’ve tried so far – maybe that will change and maybe it won’t. But please, please, please, people – STOP bashing direct sales. Most of us are legitimate and you’re giving us a bad name. How about building us up instead of dragging us down?

    • Jennifer February 13, 2017, 3:11 pm

      I agree with your comments about an MLM! You CAN reach the top if you put your efforts out there! If you have ever worked in a corporation, then you know what a true pyrmid is. The odds of an employee becoming CEO or President of that company are pretty slim at best! And the odds of an employee making as much money as either of those people is 0 to none! In an MLM, you’re rewarded for your efforts! Do nothing – make nothing….

  • Pilgrim September 13, 2015, 9:25 pm

    NYR is MLM!?! my innocence has been popped like a soap bubble.
    i just want to buy a product and have that be the end of the transaction.
    i dont want to adopt the salesperson!

    • Marie October 9, 2015, 10:33 am

      I agree! I am a salesperson but you don’t have to adopt me. Buy from my website and I will never talk to you! LOL
      http://www.LotusCents.com 🙂

      • Tiny November 12, 2016, 1:06 pm

        Marie – Maybe you should have taken time to talk to your customers, you may have still been in business

        @Pilgrim You have nothing to worry about, continue enjoying the product if you like it regardless of who you buy from, you will find good deals on both Amazon & Ebay to help save you money.

        Nobody has to purchase product on a big scale, you buy from orders that you take using other peoples money, if you can get them to pay up front.

        They are more interested in people recruiting customers as a consultant than actually selling, the idea is everybody becomes a consultant and buys direct,with everybody above them getting a small % of the sales.

        Once you have recruited your customers as consultants, they then recruit their customers and so forth, you move up the ladder and earn off the sales from the people below you, as well as saving 25% on what you purchase.

  • Laura December 5, 2015, 9:39 pm

    NYR Organic is the ‘direct selling arm’ of Neal’s Yard Remedies; established in London’s Covent Garden in 1981, which now has over 40 stores in the UK as well as branches in the USA, Japan and Dubai. This is a highly regarded, established and successful company which has over 30 years experience of making organic and natural products and herbal remedies.
    Firstly, NYR do not claim all their products to be ‘100% organic’. Like it has been said above, in many cases this simply is not possible – water, clay and salts are natural products and therefore the product cannot be certified as ‘100% organic’. However, NYR are honest about everything in their products; displaying very clearly on their packaging the exact percentage of organic content and the full ingredient list. For a product to be classed as ‘organic’, it only needs to contain 1% organic ingredients; which many companies use as a focal selling point when in actual fact, their product is not very organic at all and can contain harmful substances. The herbs, plant products and essential oils in NYR products are certified by the Soil Association – recognised and reputed for their high standards worldwide.
    As it has been said earlier – a chemical is ‘a substance with a distinct molecular composition that is produced by or used in a chemical process.’ People seem to get anxious of the term ‘chemical’. NYR will not use any chemical that is potentially harmful or toxic to the human body, wildlife or the environment.
    Every single ingredient that goes into a their products is thoroughly researched to ensure that it is not only not in any way harmful, but is ethically sourced too. In fact, a lot of their ingredients are grown in their own eco-factory in Dorset and Sheepdrove Organic Farm in Berkshire, England. Their eco-factory even uses collected rainwater to flush the toilets, their bathroom tiles are made from their own recycled blue bottles and has solar panels for their energy.
    They know the origin of every single one of their ingredients and are proud to support Fairtrade, Fair for life and FairWild projects. An example – their frankincense oil is sustainably gathered by the women of the Samburu tribe in northern Kenya, in exchange for a fair price plus an additional premium for community projects.
    As for the ‘MLM’ comments, as with any job, you get what you put in. NYR Organic has no targets, no minimum order costs and no contracts. Consultants can decide for themselves how much effort they want to put in. Holding parties and events are by no means manditory and one can simply become a consultant to sell the products to friends and family, or make the most of the discount for their own use.
    The only cost is the starter kit – this is the heart of your business and is what is going to promote your products to others. By giving others the opportunity to try the product before they decide to buy is allowing them to make an informed decision and can be exciting and enjoyable.
    Let’s face it – everyone has to invest time and money into their job whatever their job may be; through petrol costs, uniform, lunch and so on. ‘Pyramid scheme’ is a loose term and can be applied to a wide range of businesses – think of a general store for example; you have your shop workers, your supervisors, managers, and so on. In direct selling companies, progression is achieved from what you decide to put in, promotions are more easily achievable if you are willing and passionate about your product and, every single person starts at the same level, unlike large corporate companies where progression can be more difficult and competition is high.
    Finally, have a look at the awards this company have won for their products, overall efforts, achievements and effectiveness. They speak for themselves.
    If you are reading this and you are thinking of becoming a NYR Organic consultant – please do not be put off by negative and poorly researched comments. Do your own research, try the products for yourself and you will know whether this is something you would like to pursue. If you have a genuine interest in organic, natural health and beauty products you already have the potential to succeed – your passion for the products and the company will shine through and will sell itself to others.

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  • Susan Smith January 8, 2016, 10:55 pm

    I am amazed for someone that has never tried NYR would give such a definitive summary on their products. Comparing their products to Burt’s Bees is like saying the Dollar store has the same quality products as Nordstrom. You have no idea what NYR is all about! You may have beauty but I’m a bit concerned where your brains are.

  • Margie February 11, 2016, 5:49 pm

    Anytime there us a new “multi-level” marketing/home party I shudder. I remember getting roped into Amway in the 1980’s ack what a mistake. The product can be decent but the price tripled to compensate for the “hostess gifts” or the “upline”. I politely say no thank you to multilevel marketing parties :-).

  • Donna February 26, 2016, 7:35 pm

    The best quality, not harsh or toxic, no snythetics or safety caps — first consumer direct marketing wellness product for your every day essential needs. Check us out and would welcome your comments/feedback. We also have pure essential oils are 30-50% less than what is available.

  • Jackie July 14, 2016, 2:13 pm

    MLM …. that’s what all business is!

    Even if you are not in direct sales, you answer to someone (like a boss) and most likely they want you to bring business to them in the way of referrals or advertising for their businesses. How is that different?

    I do direct sales and have more freedom doing that than I do in my own job where my boss makes all the money and I do all the work.

    I agree this response/article is in very poor taste and very biased. I’ll be sure to tell my friends to ignore that Beauty Brains book you so eloquently mentioned in the beginning of your response. Nice touch, not!

  • Carmen February 8, 2017, 8:06 am

    I was a skeptic of MLM; however, I tried it with Beautycounter and it’s been great. If you are using the products anyway, then there shouldn’t be a problem. It’s those who invest thousands of dollars and don’t market and sell that end up losing. MLM has been a great hobby and has reconnected me with so many old friends who love the products. I agree that comparing NYR to a store bought brand is silly. The company is renowned for its sustainability efforts and education. Also, better quality products are more concentrated, which means they contain less preservatives; store bought brands need a longer shelf life so they are laden with fillers. In addition, companies like NYR and Beautycounter spend money on 3rd party testing to ensure parabens and other harmful chemicals don’t sneak in via the manufacturer who often times tries to expand the recipe. The 3rd party testing is key and is an added cost, which could arguably increase the cost of the final product. I’m a proponent of MLM; if done right it’s fun and educational along the way and can serve as some good side money.

    • Lauren February 17, 2017, 10:37 pm

      That’s interesting that you ended up w/ BC but have knowledge in NYR also. I’m curious what pushed you to the BC side of the fence? I’ve been researching BC for months- have numerous friends who sell it, and only just recently have come across NYR a number of times this week. The kit is more affordable, the products are more affordable, and it seems like a great company. However, BC offers the makeup, is recongized by the EWG website & seems to have a much stronger “presence” here in the US- which I’m thinking would be helpful. May I ask how long you’ve been w/ BC & why you choose them?

  • Gail March 7, 2017, 9:51 am

    Wow what an ignorant sweeping statement about NYR products. They are nothing like other commercial companies, you clearly have not done your research!

  • Natalie May 17, 2017, 7:42 am

    The Soil Association, who certify Neals Yard’sOrganic ingredients, demand the strictest standards are met before approving products and ingredients. They are one of the strictest and most thorough certifiers of organic in the world. Producing and certifying organic products is a labour intensive process. It costs money to be certified by them but it proves youre ethical. I’m happy to pay extra for ethical products as I’m informed and know why it costs more (e.g. not cutting corners on ethics). I can have a clean conscience regarding the health of myself, others, the planet and future generations.

    Burts bees and Neutrogena are not organic and certainly no where near comparable to Neals Yard who do a lot of research into the effects of their products. Nothing can be considered natural if it has synthetic chemicals in it.
    I dont work for Neals Yard I just know the truth.
    Companies who produce synthetic chemicals and genetically modified rubbish often have their staff go on to teach in Universities or work in Government where they can spout their poisonous propaganda which maintains the facade of technofix solutions!
    This article by Beauty “Brains” seems to have had no research done on it at all. The arguments seem pedantic and based on assumptions.

    • Randy Schueller May 18, 2017, 7:25 am

      I’m just curious Natalie. How do you define natural in the context of cosmetic products?

  • Natalie May 17, 2017, 8:42 am

    If everyone got their ethical priorities straight then we’d not have to pay a little extra to get certification for products because everything would just be ethical. Please use your choices widely.


    • Pat August 10, 2017, 6:50 pm

      I am an NYR consultant in the UK. I did some basic research of the products and believe what they say is true, especially when they have accreditations e.g. Soil. I paid £50 for my starter kit and thought to myself that was it. My sponsor never explained about optional additional costs which you will soon realise once you’ve joined. As I am new to this NYR consultant business, I didn’t ask the things I should have such as “any other costs to consider”. This is extremely unfair because if you see this as a new business, you would want to know all the costs before taking the plunge for basic budgetary purposes. But I am happy to take a calculated risk and see if things will work out. My plan was to join a Skincare company anyway as Independent Consultant so it really annoys me when info is concealed to get me to sign up even though I was going to anyway.

      Additional costs include: catalogues (they expire so you buy updated ones), conference (they offer free training but conference costs, as a newbie, I just assumed conference and training were the same), gifts for host and other gifts. It seems to me that NYR is making money from agents rather than customers. As a consultant, I should get free samples and catalogues because I take the risk to be self-employed, win business on behalf of NYR, don’t get holiday pay like an NYR employee would. I am not too bothered about recruiting unless people really want to join. I am just interested in setting up a business and selling to people to help with skin care. Once you’ve joined, their main priority is to get the new consultant recruiting. This is silly because how can a new consultant train their recruits – The blind leading the blind. So I will just focus on why I joined in the first place and forget about the company’s incentives. That said, it is not totally blind leading the blind because they do have a Secret Facebook Page which I find helpful and you see loads of consultants asking and answering questions.

      If you do join and find my comment useful, then good luck. At least your starter kit will give you discounted products. Even if you decide to give up, you can still pamper yourself. But I wouldn’t start overdoing things i.e. buy all the products they have. Apparently there are freebies for consultants so I am interested in learning about it from my Sponsor and expand my NYR range, I think you have to place an order of a certain amount. I hope my comment gives you a balanced view of the opportunities and pitfalls. Register and see if you like it, nothing ventured nothing gained. Any business carries risk. See this as a mix between Sales Rep and Franchisee. You’re not tied to a lengthy contract and you don’t have to stock up. You only pay for your starter kit.

      • michelle griswald September 10, 2017, 8:52 am

        PAT! Thank you so much for your comment. I am tryingto decide if I want to join also. I would also like to know about the “secret facebppk page” I need to know all that I can about this company before I buy my packages first.
        Thanks Michelle

  • Angela February 4, 2018, 6:41 am

    This is such an unnecessary debate with people only trying to stand their ground. Of course chemicals are a part of life. However, some companies are obviously more conscious of their practices. Neal’s Yards appears to be one of them. More and more people are becoming conscious of their bodies and the planet. They are willing to pay a premium for these products. Anyone who works with NYO should feel proud. I think we can all agree on that:)