K Beauty : Is a 10 step skincare regemin necessary?

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  • #92474
    shar037
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    Hi!

    I am fascinated with the whole K Beauty craze. With ingredients like Snail Mucen (goo), bee venom, sheep placenta…my curiosity is peaked. Not to mention the fact that most K Beauty routines consists of at least 10 steps!
    All marketing is leveraged on the fact that many Asian women do have beautiful skin and the fact Korean women have been using these ingredients for centuries. While it’s true that many (not all ) Asian women have gorgeous skin, I’m thinking this is due to genetics and diet…not snail goo.
    Is there any validity to the use of ingredients like these?
    Are 10 steps better than 3?

    Much Thanks,
    Sharron

    #95760
    RandyS
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    That’s a big question. There is evidence that some ingredients, like snail mucen, MAY benefit skin but its not conclusive. Others are pure hype. Are 10 steps better than 3? Certainly not. It’s better to focus on the quality of the steps not how many. Stick with things that are proven to work like retinoids, niacinamide, vitamin C.   

    #95763
    pma
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    Actually, those more exotic ingredients, according to my personal perception, may be more popular in magazine articles made by western media about K-beauty than in Korean products. I only see those ingredientes in products from small Korean companies, I don´t see them in products from medium or big Korean companies.

    AMOREPACIFIC is the largest cosmetics company in the Korean market, they own several brands. But I don´t know any cosmetic from AMOREPACIFIC which contains snail mucen, sheep placenta, venon or other strange ingredients. 
    The ingredients I often see in Korean cosmetics are niacinamide, arbutin, retinol, ginseng, green tea and soy extracts, fermented extracts in general (Koreans believe if you the botanical extracts are fermented they could give better results – and there are some studies supporting it). 
    A really real difference about K-beauty is they don´t see to like minimalism*. Another difference is you can often find studies published on scientific periodicals and patents from even small Korean companies (out of Korean you it´s almost totally done just by big companies). And there is a reason: your company there can gain even public money if you develop something like an innovative moisturizer. There are a lot of financial stimulus if your cosmetic company publish patents or/and studies. 
    *Here a typical formula from AMOREPACIFIC:
    PHYLLOSTACHIS BAMBUSOIDES JUICE, CAMELLIA SINENSIS LEAF WATER, BUTYLENE GLYCOL, WATER, BIOSACCHARIDE GUM-1, DIMETHICONE, CYCLOPENTASILOXANE, ALCOHOL, PEG-75, GLYCERIN, GLYCERETH-26, CAMELLIA SINENSIS SEED OIL, GLYCERYL POLYMETHACRYLATE, CYCLOHEXASILOXANE, AMMONIUM ACRYLOYLDIMETHYLTAURATE/VP COPOLYMER, EPIGALLOCATECHIN GALLATE, CAMELLIA SINENSIS CALLUS CULTURE EXTRACT, CAMELLIA SINENSIS CALLUS CULTURE CONDITIONED MEDIA, HYDROLYZED CAMELLIA SINENSIS SEED EXTRACT, CAMELLIA SINENSIS LEAF EXTRACT, CAMELLIA SINENSIS FLOWER EXTRACT, HYDROLYZED CAMELLIA SINENSIS LEAF, CAMELLIA SINENSIS SEED OIL/PALM OIL AMINOPROPANEDIOL ESTERS, THEANINE, TREHALOSE, PANAX GINSENG ROOT EXTRACT, CAFFEINE, ROSA DAVURICA BUD EXTRACT, ZIZYPHUS JUJUBA FRUIT EXTRACT, OLEA EUROPAEA (OLIVE) FRUIT OIL, DIPOTASSIUM GLYCYRRHIZATE, MANGIFERA INDICA (MANGO) SEED BUTTER, BUTYROSPERMUM PARKII (SHEA) BUTTER, ZINGIBER OFFICINALE (GINGER) ROOT EXTRACT, SIMMONDSIA CHINENSIS (JOJOBA) SEED OIL, HELIANTHUS ANNUUS (SUNFLOWER) SEED OIL, HAMAMELIS VIRGINIANA (WITCH HAZEL) LEAF EXTRACT, AVENA SATIVA (OAT) KERNEL EXTRACT, OPUNTIA COCCINELLIFERA FRUIT EXTRACT, BETULA PLATYPHYLLA JAPONICA JUICE, GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) SEED EXTRACT, RHODIOLA ROSEA ROOT EXTRACT, LONICERA JAPONICA (HONEYSUCKLE) FLOWER EXTRACT, TRICHOLOMA MATSUTAKE EXTRACT, GOSSYPIUM HERBACEUM (COTTON) EXTRACT, LIMNANTHES ALBA (MEADOWFOAM) SEED OIL, GINKGO BILOBA LEAF EXTRACT, COCOS NUCIFERA (COCONUT) OIL, ARNICA MONTANA FLOWER EXTRACT, ACHILLEA MILLEFOLIUM EXTRACT, ARTEMISIA ABSINTHIUM EXTRACT, GENTIANA LUTEA ROOT EXTRACT, GLYCYRRHIZA GLABRA (LICORICE) ROOT EXTRACT, VITIS VINIFERA (GRAPE) LEAF EXTRACT, FOENICULUM VULGARE (FENNEL) SEED EXTRACT, SILYBUM MARIANUM FRUIT EXTRACT, HYDROLYZED PHYLLOSTACHIS BAMBUSOIDES, EUGENIA CARYOPHYLLUS (CLOVE) FLOWER EXTRACT, MAGNOLIA OBOVATA BARK EXTRACT, PAPAIN, VACCINIUM ANGUSTIFOLIUM (BLUEBERRY) FRUIT EXTRACT, BETA-GLUCAN, NATTO GUM, SODIUM HYALURONATE, HESPERIDIN, CENTELLA ASIATICA EXTRACT, CITRUS UNSHIU PEEL EXTRACT, HYDROLYZED VIOLA TRICOLOR EXTRACT, CARICA PAPAYA (PAPAYA) FRUIT EXTRACT, SECALE CEREALE (RYE) SEED EXTRACT, HIBISCUS ABELMOSCHUS SEED EXTRACT, NELUMBO NUCIFERA FLOWER EXTRACT, DEXTRIN, BETAINE, OCTYLDODECYL MYRISTATE, HYDROGENATED POLY(C6-14 OLEFIN), POLYGLYCERYL-10 STEARATE, POLYMETHYL METHACRYLATE, PROPYLENE GLYCOL, HYDROGENATED LECITHIN, SODIUM POLYACRYLATE, PROPANEDIOL, HYDROGENATED POLYDECENE, PEG-5 RAPESEED STEROL, 1,2-HEXANEDIOL, PENTYLENE GLYCOL, ETHYLHEXYLGLYCERIN, PPG-5-LAURETH-5, SACCHARIDE ISOMERATE, HYDROXYETHYL ACRYLATE/SODIUM ACRYLOYLDIMETHYL TAURATE COPOLYMER, CAPRYLYL GLYCOL, POLOXAMER 235, STEARYL BEHENATE, ETHOXYDIGLYCOL, POLYGLYCERYL-3 METHYLGLUCOSE DISTEARATE, XANTHAN GUM, TOCOPHERSOLAN, PHYTANTRIOL, POLOXAMER 338, POLOXAMER 407, HYDROXYPROPYL BISPALMITAMIDE MEA, METHOXY PEG-114/POLYEPSILON CAPROLACTONE, INULIN LAURYL CARBAMATE, POLYSORBATE 20, KAEMPFEROL, DISODIUM EDTA, PHENOXYETHANOL, FRAGRANCE, YELLOW 5 (CI 19140), YELLOW 6 (CI 15985)

    #95764
    RandyS
    Member

    Holy crap, that’s some ingredient list! 

    Thanks for the thought provoking assessment of Korean beauty products. Are you actually in S. Korea or are you just really plugged into the beauty biz there? 
    #95765
    tsuto
    Member

    Thanks for asking this shar037. I actually stumbled across this blog to find out the scientific legitimacy of Korean skincare. It’s such a growing trend right now- tons of youtube beauty gurus, target selling k-products, and specialty k-skincare shops popping up all over in the states. The products sound so unique compared to US skincare products and they seem affordable and come in such cute packaging. However, I am skeptical that it is all just marketing gimmicks but I read that Korean skincare is to be 10-15 years ahead of US skincare market? All the beauty gurus recommending all the products look to be no older than 30 and I’m not sure I’d take advice from these non-scientific people. I’m thinking of how does this compare to pharmaceutical grade products like Image Skincare, SkinCeuticals, etc. 

    #95766
    RandyS
    Member

    This topic seems to be getting some traction. Would Shar (or anyone else for that matter) be interested in submitting an audio question about K-beauty that we could use on the podcast? 

    (All you have to do is record yourself on your smart phone and email it to me at thebeautybrains@gmail.com.)
    #95790
    pma
    Member

    @RandyS: the second one.

    #95921
    preciousia
    Member

    hi RandyS, do you still need someone to record the audio question? Let me know if you do, i’ll do it.

    #95922
    RandyS
    Member

    Yes, that would be great! I’m a bit backed up right now so it’ll be a while before I can record a podcast with the answer but we’ll certainly use your voice if you can send us a recording. 

    THANK YOU! 
    #96124
    preciousia
    Member

    Sorry, been MIA. I got 101 questions like many others. If you are doing a specific topic, perhaps I got a question for it. Happy to help RandyS, you do so much for us! Time to give back.

    #96127
    RandyS
    Member

    Hey Preciousia. I’m still interested in talking about Korean beauty products/business on the podcast and could use an audio question about that. 

    I’m also open to hearing any questions you might have to see if they would make good topics. If you want to email a list of your questions I could tell you which one(s) would work best. 

    Thanks! 
    #96134
    preciousia
    Member

    Thank you Randy. ~O)

    I have sent you an audio recording of the 1st question on Fluoride & beauty brains intro. I have several more questions which i will consolidate and email you in a bit.

    #96136
    RandyS
    Member

    Got it, thanks!

    #96137
    preciousia
    Member

    so many questions…hehe 


    first let me go through to see if you haven’t already answered them on your comprehensive site.

    Thanks Randy 

    ~O) If i am ever in town, coffee on me.

    #96140
    RandyS
    Member

    Wow, 26 questions. That’s quite a list! As much as I’d love to answer them, if I did I couldn’t get any other work done for a week! 

    We have discussed some of them before. If you keep poking around the website you should find a few answers.  I’ve added the other questions to my research list and, when time permits, if I find any useful information I’ll write something up about them. 
    In the meantime I’m working on answering your fluoride question in an upcoming podcast. 
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